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post #16 of 447 (permalink) Old 2010-08-31, 08:21 AM
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For Global, it looks like they applied for channel 12 as well if I understand this fcc application correctly.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=163476
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Cross-referencing with Stampeder's mirror of the Industry Canada database:
http://www.user.dccnet.com/jonleblan...ations/ON.html
Channel 12 is the transitional digital allocation for CIII-6 Ottawa.
The FCC's database is not a reliable source of information about active Canadian TV stations and Canadian allocations.
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I was actually planning on intervening against Global's Ottawa repeater primarily because they will be remaining on channel 6, which has proven to be very problematic (the analog signal is very difficult to receive well and experience in the USA has shown that VHF-LO is even worse for DTV). Now it looks like that won't be possible.
With the CRTC out of the picture on this one, concerned viewers such as yourself could call Global now to ask them about this potential problem. Surely, the trouble with VHF-LO is not a secret in broadcast engineering circles.
Perhaps Global can explain to you directly why they chose to remain on Channel 6 instead of moving to VHF-HI or UHF.
That said, there's nothing to stop Global from asking to increase their ERP, or even to move off Channel 6 in the future.
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gincognito, as downbeat mentioned, the FCC's database does not keep up with IC's, and vice versa. I've found over the years that only confusion and error comes from trying to use one country's data for the other country's stations.



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Global has put in an application for DTV transmitters in Halifax and Montreal.

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-654.htm
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It is interesting in both applications, Global is wanting to use a different channel than IC allocated them (channel 8 instead of 26 in Halifax and channel 15 instead of 51 in Montreal). In both cases it will result in an increase in coverage.
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CIHF (Global Halifax) currently uses channel 8 for OTA analog transmissions.

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Global could make a case for their proposed technical parameters giving better coverage in Montreal, but as we've been discussing in the Atlantic reception thread, there are serious doubts about theory versus real-life when it comes to low-power TV transmission on VHF-HI.
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It is interesting in both applications, Global is wanting to use a different channel than IC allocated them (channel 8 instead of 26 in Halifax and channel 15 instead of 51 in Montreal). In both cases it will result in an increase in coverage.
For the Montreal case, I believe it was the only way they could share the new CBC/SRC UHF antenna on Mount Royal. 36 would have worked (better, too, since it could go as high as 845kW, ISTR), had V stayed on the mountian on 35, but V will be statying 3-4 km away, and that is too close for adjacent channel broadcasting without being co-located.
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That is actually very scary. It means that a bunch of applications have been approved without any public consultation. I was actually planning on intervening against Global's Ottawa repeater primarily because they will be remaining on channel 6, which has proven to be very problematic (the analog signal is very difficult to receive well and experience in the USA has shown that VHF-LO is even worse for DTV). Now it looks like that won't be possible.
Looks like Global Ottawa was approved according to the new streamlined procedures. Which obviously don't even get announced until approved. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-690.htm
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Looks like Global Ottawa was approved according to the new streamlined procedures. Which obviously don't even get announced until approved. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-690.htm
I wonder if contacting the CRTC now would have any effect?

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You never know. I know I am intending on filing a complaint. If they get enough of them, they might do something.
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You never know. I know I am intending on filing a complaint. If they get enough of them, they might do something.
OK, I'll send one too. Is it too late to complain about CIII-TV-6 in Paris? I don't remember hearing when that one was approved either.

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Is it too late to complain about CIII-TV-6 in Paris?
In Paris it is actually CIII-TV. CIII-TV-6 is in Ottawa. For Global Toronto, this bulletin only covers CIII-TV-6 and CIII-TV-22 (Stevenson/Windsor). That doesn't mean that CIII-TV's application hasn't been approved yet, only that it wasn't approved during the time period that this bulletin covers (1 May to 30 June 2010).
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In Paris it is actually CIII-TV. CIII-TV-6 is in Ottawa. For Global Toronto, this bulletin only covers CIII-TV-6 and CIII-TV-22 (Stevenson/Windsor). That doesn't mean that CIII-TV's application hasn't been approved yet, only that it wasn't approved during the time period that this bulletin covers (1 May to 30 June 2010).
Yeah, so we should expect to see it come out in streamlined fashion? Its already AP on the list.

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