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post #511 of 944 (permalink) Old 2011-03-22, 09:56 PM
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Angry London area = CBC OTA coverage void :(

Thanks Downbeat for posting the CBC coverage maps link.

That is the final nail in the coffin... CBC OTA coverage in Ontario by means of a mix of analog, affiliate, and 3 CBC digital stations..... the only large population area where there is a VOID is the London, Woodstock, St.Thomas, Stratford, Strathroy, and all other towns in the area. It's just wrong on so many different levels.



Check out the coverage map for most of Ontario @ http://cbc.radio-canada.ca/tvn/pdf-m...015_TVE_ON.pdf from Windsor to Montreal to North Bay & Sudbury.

When the CBC analog transmitters begin to fail, there will NO longer be CBC OTA coverage in many areas, except for Ottawa, Toronto/GTA, and Windsor. People in these cities should consider themselves lucky.
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post #512 of 944 (permalink) Old 2011-03-22, 09:59 PM
 
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Nice map!

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I guess when the analog transmitters begin to fail, there will NO longer be CBC OTA coverage in many areas, except for Ottawa, Toronto/GTA, and Windsor. People in those areas should consider themselves lucky.
So true

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Re: CFYK Yellowknife

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Isn't CFYK-TV Yellowknife an originating station? Perhaps CBC is too far down the road to turn back. We'll see I guess.
I expect CBC to carry on converting CFYK since it's an originating station. They're also converting their SRC station in Rimouski, which isn't a mandatory market either. Both are showing on their site: http://cbc.radio-canada.ca/dtv

I find it interesting that the DTV conversion is currently living on CBC's relatively static corporate site and not on the main CBC.ca site. If you search CBC.ca there is simply no link to CBC's dtv conversion site - not even under the TV/Channels and Frequencies section. I'd like to think that this is because the DTV site is new and just getting integrated in - I'd hope to find it at cbc.ca/dtv soon.

Guys, if you haven't done so yet, please write to the CBC via their contact us facility. I wrote them to complain about losing my local SRC repeater (which I watch about the same amount of as CTV or Global) but also put in a word for folks who will be losing CBC English. If we don't complain to CBC now and in September when signals are lost, these repeaters will stay dark.
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post #514 of 944 (permalink) Old 2011-03-22, 10:39 PM
 
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Despite all my phone calls indicating CBC not making the DT transition in Halifax by the deadline their website now indicates differently: http://cbc.radio-canada.ca/dtv/halifax_cbc.shtml
I'm not sure if this is one hand not knowing what the other is doing but it could be an encouraging sign. Has the CRTC come out somewhere and said no deadline extensions for mandatory markets?

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post #515 of 944 (permalink) Old 2011-03-22, 10:51 PM
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Absolutely... I've submitted a few Complaints to CBC via its "contact us" link @ http://cbc.radio-canada.ca/about/contact.shtml / http://www.cbc.ca/contact/ (where the form actually exists). I have also sent 2 or 3 emails to Angus McKinnon (Senior Advisor, Media Relations and Issues Management at CBC/Radio-Canada) and my MP, Ed Holder.

Of course, I never received any response or feedback... so I'm not sure how effective these Complaints are.
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post #516 of 944 (permalink) Old 2011-03-22, 10:55 PM
 
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Does this new website actually represent their solid comitted plan to make transitions or end services? After multiple phone calls saying Halifax would be going without DTV for at least another year now I see they're going to meet the deadline. ( http://cbc.radio-canada.ca/dtv/halifax_cbc.shtml ) I also see they're planning on cutting some mandatory markets entirely by ending their presence in those cities, like Saskatoon among others. I guess mandatory means "if you're going to transmit there you have to go digital", thus the sharp pencil brigade sees savings in "you don't have to go digital in non-capital large population centres if you don't transmit there any more."

It does suck that many markets are losing coverage (London, Saskatoon, most of New Brunswick), and it's interesting that they don't mention the time limits on analogue repeater lifespans, but it's a comprehensive plan that's long overdue in being released. And in my small corner of the world, an encouraging sign!
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post #517 of 944 (permalink) Old 2011-03-22, 11:00 PM
 
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lordhemet,

In December, CBC quietly updated their PDF from August to indicate that all originating stations will be online for the deadline. I expect you'll get CBC Halifax around September 1.

Based on magnet's info, you might even get CTV a few months early, since they are switching towers. Hopefully they are able to get it up and running within safety code 6 limits.

Global will be almost impossible to pick up at a paltry 800 watts... too bad. And Halifax will be losing SRC, along with Charlottetown, Saint John, and Fredericton.
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Even some provincial capitals will be without CBC digital OTA - Quebec City loses its retransmitter of CBC Montreal, Victoria is right at the edge on Vancouver's contour.

Anyone know the fate of privately-owned CBC/SRC affiliates? I think there's CKSA in Lloydminster, AB, CKPR in Thunder Bay, ON, CKRT in Riviere-du-Loup, QC, CJDG and CKRN in Rouyn-Noranda/Val-d'OR, QC in the mandatory markets. Are they all on their own to convert?

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Are they all on their own to convert?
Yes, they are all on their own to put money into the conversion.
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On affiliates — that is the sillest part of the whole situation.
As far as I know, EVERY affiliate of CBC Television — including the very smallest ones — is converting to DTV.
Lloydminster, Thunder Bay and entire networks of French affiliates in Quebec in 2011; Kingston and Peterborough in 2012, if memory serves. (Am I missing any?)
Between the CBC's unwillingness to convert its repeater stations and the CRTC's hard line on analog stations in mandatory markets going off the air this August, this entire situation is an utter train wreck.
NOT looking forward to losing CBRFT in August.
I'm sharpening my proverbial pencil for a new round of letter writing.

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Question on CBC's distribution network

As has been mentioned previously, the lifespan of CBC/Radio-Canada's analog distribution network is coming to the end of its useful life in 2013.
I wonder if *that* is a major motivating factor behind CBC's insistence that it won't convert its repeater stations to DTV? i.e. They have no way of providing an HD signal to remote locations, apart from off-air pickup?
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Maybe it's to simple of an idea... BUT... Cant they just find some free transponder up in the sky, uplink a feed there, and then pull the signal in on its distribution network?
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Would you happen to have a link to their PDF so I can see how they're going to go about making the change?

I expect CTV to start testing their DTV signal soon and have it fully operational in early summer. I'll post pictures of the install and screencaps of the signal when I can.
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As has been mentioned previously, the lifespan of CBC/Radio-Canada's analog distribution network is coming to the end of its useful life in 2013.
I wonder if *that* is a major motivating factor behind CBC's insistence that it won't convert its repeater stations to DTV? i.e. They have no way of providing an HD signal to remote locations, apart from off-air pickup?
Quite the opposite. During the SMPTE meeting earlier this month, the CBC transmission director stated that they need to put all of their stations on satellite in order to get to all of the BDU's. This will give them a capacity crunch since all stations will be in HD. An audience member asked why not just run a data line to the transmitter for STL and this was deemed a non-starter since the BDU's need the same signal and are so numerous and spread out.
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Maybe it's to simple of an idea... BUT... Cant they just find some free transponder up in the sky, uplink a feed there, and then pull the signal in on its distribution network?
They could even subscribe to Shaw Direct or Bell TV and plug the receiver into the transmitter if they had to.
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