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post #391 of 476 (permalink) Old 2018-12-13, 07:00 AM
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It's working okay (or at least as okay as Crave ever works) on my Fire stick.

It worked a lot better on my Android before the upgrade. Nothing would play afterwards. They've upgraded it again at least twice more in the last few days on my Android. It's pretty much back to it's old flakey self. On one hand, they have added download capability. On the other hand, that hasn't worked yet. I've downloaded a few things ... and not one will play.

Meanwhile Netflix on Android works flawlessly, including downloads.

Same old Bell Canada ...
Crave Tv has not been updated to the new version on Fire tv stick. The new app has option to access the HBO and Movie Network.

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post #392 of 476 (permalink) Old 2018-12-13, 10:34 AM
 
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Just got an email from Air Miles - Crave is offering 3 months free service to Air Miles members.

Looks like you have to sign up to a year, but looks like you can cancel after the trial period - I am not sure how easy or difficult this would be.

Sign into your Air Miles account for the full details.
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Just as an FYI, I've been watching the series "Bosch" via Crave/Drama on Channel 309 (On Demand) on my Rogers STB and it's DD5.1, so they have DD5.1 available.
I'm not positive, but I believe the TV providers load the Crave content on their own internal VOD servers, so Crave may provide a higher quality audio and video product through VOD than they do through streaming.
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Approximate amount of data used per bitrate:

1080p - 2.6GB/hour (Apple TV Generation 4 only)...
That must be new. I saved a copy of the old help file and that wasn't there. The max was 720p.

Thanks for 2 very useful pieces of info.
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I stated earlier that I wasn't sure whether I could get into the diagnostics to see the resolution of the incoming OD signal. I just tested and I could. (Rogers channel 309 - Crave OD)

All of the HD programming that I brought up was 1080i and DD5.1

The SD programming was 480i, however, the audio was DD5.1, yes you read that correctly, DD5.1.

I checked the recent movie "Red Sparrow" to see if it was 1080P and it was not. However, 1080i is very easy to deinterlace, so there is not usually any significant difference in PQ between 1080i and 1080P, except that the latter takes more server space, hence the use of 1080i on the server. I didn't see any 720P OD programming, but I only checked perhaps a dozen titles.
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The SD programming was 480i, however, the audio was DD5.1, yes you read that correctly, DD5.1
TMN SD had DD 5.1 audio for years. Quite often, the HD station had DD 2.0 and the SD station with the same movie was in DD 5.1. TMN claimed it was due to how the movie was given to them by the studios. It took a few years before the movies on the HD stations were almost all DD 5.1. HBO programming was typically DD 5.1, both SD and HD.

On modern solid state screens, 1080i is almost indistinguishable from 1080p except with very fast changing content. The big issue with interlace was due to CRT screens and phosphors with very fast decay times. That caused flicker which is essentially eliminated on modern screens. The remaining issues with interlace are due to motion artifacts on content such as fast moving sports.
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For those people who have had issues with ATV3, there has been a recent update that should solve any issues. Apparently ATV2 can also now stream. (From Rogers Forum)

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Crave Highlights for January: HBO’s TRUE DETECTIVE Returns, the New SHOWTIME Series BLACK MONDAY Debuts, and Ocean’s 8, Hotel Transylvania 3, and Sicario 2 Premiere

The full January lineup for Crave and Crave + Movies + HBO is outlined below.

SHOWTIME Programming (Available on Crave):
RAY DONOVAN, Season 6, Episode 11 (January 6 @ 9 p.m. ET)
RAY DONOVAN, Season 6, Episode 12 *Season Finale* (January 13 @ 9 p.m. ET)
BLACK MONDAY, Season 1, Episode 1 *Series Premiere* (January 20 @ 10 p.m. ET)
SMILF, Season 2, Episode 1 *Season Premiere* (January 20 @ 10:30 p.m. ET)
BLACK MONDAY, Season 1, Episode 2 (January 27 @ 10 p.m. ET)
SMILF, Season 2, Episode 2 (January 27 @ 10:30 p.m. ET)

HBO Programming (Available on Crave + Movies + HBO):
TRUE DETECTIVE, Season 3, Episode 1 *Season Premiere* (January 13 @ 9 p.m. ET)
TRUE DETECTIVE, Season 3, Episode 2 (January 13 @ 10 p.m. ET)
BREXIT (January 19 @ 9 p.m. ET)
TRUE DETECTIVE, Season 3, Episode 3 (January 20 @ 9 p.m. ET)
CRASHING, Season 3, Episode 1 *Season Premiere* (January 20 @ 10 p.m. ET)
HIGH MAINTENANCE, Season 3, Episode 1 *Season Premiere* (January 20 @ 10:30 p.m. ET)
STRIKE BACK, Season 6, Episode 1 (January 25 @ 11 p.m. ET)
AMANDA SEALES: I BE KNOWIN’ (January 26 @ 10 p.m. ET)
TRUE DETECTIVE, Season 3, Episode 4 (January 27 @ 9 p.m. ET)
CRASHING, Season 3, Episode 2 (January 27 @ 10:10 p.m. ET)
HIGH MAINTENANCE, Season 3, Episode 2 (January 27 @ 10:40 p.m. ET)

STARZ Programming (Available on Crave):
COUNTERPART, Season 2, Episode 5 (January 6 @ 9 p.m. ET)
BOSS, Season 1 (January 11)
COUNTERPART, Season 2, Episode 6 (January 20 @ 9 p.m. ET)
COUNTERPART, Season 2, Episode 7 (January 27 @ 9 p.m. ET)

Movies (Available on Crave + Movies + HBO):
The Hangover (January 1)
Super Troopers (January 1)
Super Troopers 2 *Movie Premiere* (January 1)
The Little Vampire *Movie Premiere* (January 2)
Octavio is Dead *Canadian Movie Premiere* (January 2)
Megamind *Movie Premiere* (January 3)
Hedgehogs *Movie Premiere* (January 4)
Truth or Dare *Movie Premiere* (January 4)
Daphne and Velma (January 5)
Tully *Movie Premiere* (January 4)
The Ladybug *Movie Premiere* (January 4)
The Domestics *Movie Premiere* (January 10)
First Reformed *Movie Premiere* (January 11)
Mommy’s Little Angel (January 17)
Our House *Canadian Movie Premiere* (January 17)
Overboard *Movie Premiere* (January 18)
Ocean’s 8 *Movie Premiere* (January 19)
Mistrust *Movie Premiere* (January 23)
Room for Rent *Canadian Movie Premiere* (January 24)
Indian Horse *Canadian Movie Premiere* (January 24)
Eye on Juliet *Canadian Movie Premiere* (January 31)

Spotlight on Canada (Available on Crave):
HIGHWAY THROUGH HELL, Season 3 (January 4)

Worth Watching (Available on Crave):
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL, Season 32, Episodes 84-88 (January 1)
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL, Season 32, Episodes 89-91 (January 8)
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL, Season 32, Episodes 92-96 (January 15)
PETE HOLMES: DIRTY CLEAN (January 18)
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL, Season 32, Episodes 97-101 (January 22)
MOSAIC, Season 1 (January 25)
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL, Season 32, Episodes 102-106 (January 29)

New Kids’ Programming (Available on Crave):
MIGHTY JUNGLE, Season 2 (January 11)
YO GABBA GABBA, Season 1-4 (January 18)
DELILAH & JULIUS, Season 1-2 (January 18)
THE DOODLEBOPS, Season 1-2 (January 25)
THE AMAZING ADRENALINI BROTHERS, Season 1-2 (January 25)

#ICRAVEFRIDAYS:
THIS IS NOT HAPPENING, Season 4A (January 4)
ANOTHER PERIOD, Season 3 (January 4)
STAR TREK: SHORT TREKS, “The Escape Artist” (January 4 @ 9 p.m. ET)
FINDING ESCOBAR’S MILLIONS (January 11)
ALASKA: THE LAST FRONTIER, Season 4 (January 25)

LAST CHANCE PROGRAMMING:
CHRISTMASTIME IN SOUTH PARK (January 6)
DOCTOR WHO: THE CHRISTMAS SPECIALS (January 6)
THE ORIGINAL SANTA CLAUS PARADE 2018 (January 6)
A RUSSEL PETERS CHRISTMAS (January 6)
COMEDY CENTRAL’S ALL STAR NON-DENOMINATIONAL CHRISTMAS SPECIAL (January 6)
A COLBERT CHRISTMAS: THE GREATEST GIFT OF ALL (January 6)
Bad Santa 2 (January 7)
Brimstone (January 8)
Blair Witch (January 9)
Devil in the Dark (January 12)
Fist Fight (January 15)
BOO! A Madea Halloween (January 30)
Middle School: The Worst Years of My Life (January 31)
Megamind (January 31)
Super Troopers (January 31)
The Hangover (January 31)

COMING IN FEBRUARY:
DESUS AN MERO
DETROITERS, Season 2
TOSH.0, Season 10


Additional press release: Crave’s festive binge-watching guide

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I just noticed that the new Crave App is now available on the Fire TV 4K stick.
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I noticed it last night on my FireTV Basic as well. It decided to update mid-show and kicked me out to the main menu. Grrr.
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After so many years of waiting for the Prime Video app to come to Roku, now the game just starts again with Crave. With so many TVs now sold in Canada with Roku built-in as their "smart-TV" platform, I'm surprised Crave prioritized FireTV over Roku.
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I'm surprised because the full line of Fire TV devices were withheld from the Canadian market for so long and then they support Crave TV so soon after launch. Support for Crave TV on Fire TV must have been done behind the scenes for some time. But then Amazon is a big player with lots of money to promote Fire TV. Roku has a good presence in the streaming market but, by comparison, is a very small company. Bell seems to form partnerships with big companies like Apple and Google for the devices they support and Amazon is no exception to that trend.
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Smart.... develop based on company size rather than addressable market ;-) ATV makes sense since the ATV market is probably much larger than Roku. But Roku much larger (within Canada) than FireTV.
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But which is the real market? Does streaming hardware ownership drive OTT service subscriptions or do OTT service subscriptions drive streaming hardware sales? I think its mostly the latter. People will buy hardware that supports the services they want or already have. Apart from Netflix, Apple, Google and Amazon are the big players in the OTT market segment and they are international in scope. Crave is just a small player (globally) in a small market and caters to the big players. Crave on Roku may not have a big enough market share for either company to make it a priority.
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Of note though, the new Crave app on Fire TV still doesn’t appear to support live streams, just VOD content.
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It does on the ATV. Which is kind of nice as now I can watch (live stream) both the east and the west HBO feeds where as previously with Shaw Cable I would only have the west feed. Still though, I want this new Crave app on the Roku.
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