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post #1 of 247 (permalink) Old 2006-12-17, 02:18 AM Thread Starter
 
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Power Bar (UPS, Surge, Etc) Info and Discussion

If you're guessing that I visited a Best Buy store recently, you are absolutely right. I am looking into getting a new home theatre type set up, so the salesman tried pushing a fancy power bar on me, specifically the Monster brand. After listening to his spiel about how it's good for your TV and blah blah blah, I asked him if the TV's in the store were hooked up to one so I could see the benefits of this device. He said there weren't any hooked up to one. I asked him why. If they are so great they should all be on them. He didn't have an answer for me and didn't sound so smart anymore. So, what's the real deal here? Did this salesman not know enough about a possibly good product, or is it just hype as I suspected? What should I really know about choosing a power bar to plug all my stuff into?


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post #2 of 247 (permalink) Old 2006-12-17, 03:56 AM
 
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Let's compare a couple of products:

Monster HT800 ($150 @ BB)
- 8 outlets
- 1665 Joules rating
- $25,000 warranty

APC C5 Power Filter ($114 MSRP)
- 10 outlets
- 3400 Joules rating
- $350,000 warranty

The numbers speak for themselves. Monster products are ridiculously overpriced, you're paying for a brand name and not for the most capable product in any given price range. The big box stores are notorious for pushing Monster cabling and surge protection onto consumers as the huge markups (hundreds of percent) offer big profits for the retailer. I'd recommend instead purchasing an APC or TrippLite surge protector, for $50-$100.

Even the $40 APC surge protector found in the computer section at Best Buy offers more protection than the Monster product above.

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...for the same reason that they push Mon$ter HDMI cables for $100-150, when you can buy an HDMI cable for $20 from a computer store or less from Monoprice .com. Both Mon$ter and the Store make hugh profits from these products. Mon$ter are Charlatans.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=30452

The link discusses cables, but the power bars are essentially the same story, as discussed by elapsed above.

You can usually purchase a small UPS for about $40-$50, especially during sales like Black Friday or Boxing Week.

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Try Home depot, Belkin Home Theatre/Multimedia surge protector with 10 plugs, huge joule rating and $250,000 insurance for $69, Really solid heavy unit
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Thanks for all the answers everyone, including the link on "luxury cables". I still have a ton to learn before my next purchase, but it's making sense and not going over my head.
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Power Bars Warranty

One thing you may also want to note in the fine print is the time the warranty is applicable for due to surges. Some of these are timebound whereas others are "life time" like Tripp-LIte (see link below)

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...=T105-5034%20P
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Monster products are a total ripoff. My buddy got talked into a frikin $500 power bar with his plasma. I made him take it back.
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General Power Bar Info and Discussion

I've read the threads on whether or not to use a good surge protector, UPS, or one of those bars that provide surge protection and "clean" the power like the mon$ter ones claim to do.

I'm still kinda confused. I went to the APC site and the guide there pointed out their PF 11VT3 after I input my criteria. This is carried by Costco for a very reasonable price.

Would this be a satisfactory unit to hook up an LCD TV, AV Receiver, upconverting DVD player, subwoofer, and STB to? Do I really need to go any higher end than this? Would a non-Mon$ter Home Theatre bar be a better go?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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I'm using an APC PF11VT3 for my PC, and purchased one for my parent's small home theatre. This is an excellent surge protector.

I would typically recommend an APC or TrippLite surge protector around the $50-$100 range, but you should be safe with the PF11VT3.
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Another one I was thinking of was a Cyber Power unit. It goes for under $90 online. The same unit under a the name of Dynex goes for more than double at FS. There are also a couple of the Tripp Lite's I'm looking at around the $80 - $100 range. How would any of these be better than the APC mentioned earlier?

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Any last minute advice based on what was said above?

Thanks & cheers,

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Another one I was thinking of was a Cyber Power unit. It goes for under $90 online. The same unit under a the name of Dynex goes for more than double at FS. There are also a couple of the Tripp Lite's I'm looking at around the $80 - $100 range. How would any of these be better than the APC mentioned earlier?

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I have this one from Cyber Power.
No issues fro over a year.


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That's the one from Cyber Power I was thinking of. Do you find it cuts down on "noise"? Does it make your video any cleaner or sharper? I bet it makes cord management a little easier with the "in rack" design.

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I would recommend the PS Audio products and you can check with their web site: psaudio.com

Do you really trust your thousands $ worth of equipment with a $100 unit? Not me.
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