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post #31 of 372 (permalink) Old 2005-10-28, 02:13 PM Thread Starter
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I had trouble finding just a 100ft. of 14awg cable for cheap anywhere here.
Any hardware store or "Home Depot" will sell 12 ga. two-conductor wire for about $25/100'. I'm not sure about 14, but 12 is better anyway...

You can get any length you want custom cut as well.

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I was actually doing research into Home Depot cables and found mixed reviews. It was a toss up between people who said their cables turned greenish colour (oxidized) after a year or so and people who had no problems with their cables compared to other slightly more expensive ones that didn't. I just took the safer route just because I got a good deal on the wire.

I agree 12g would've been better, but I knew I wasn't running super long lengths so I wasn't too worried about it. Plus the most power I'm pushing to any speaker is under a [email protected] anyway.

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The (small amount) of oxidation will not harm the signal running through the cable itself. I usually leave about 6" extra and every couple of years, disconnect the wire, cut off 1/2" and reconnect - no more oxidation.

I routinely disconnect/reconnect all my cables and clean the contacts every year or two to prevent poor connections.

I believe that recommendation is at the end of the Digital Home FAQ "What you need to do to your new HDTV.

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Yea I could have done that too I guess, but am too lazy to do that every couple of years. Once setup, I'd rather just leave everything alone. Until I have to upgrade. I purchased monster banana (screw on) clips with the wires and they are the best inventions IMO. So easy to connect/disconnect and all gold plated so hopefully no oxidation and 'properly terminated'.

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I agree, I used 14awg speaker cables (Monster cables.. actually got them on sale for $50/100ft. in US). My longest runs are around 30-35 ft. (rear channels running wire through floor/basement). I had trouble finding just a 100ft. of 14awg cable for cheap anywhere here. Using anything below 14awg for long runs is not good (compared to the report on the site listed aboe) which contribute to poor signal quality. I do agree however that using inexpensive speaker cables are all that's needed for most applications.

Did you do a custom DIY wire for that Rigpig? Sounds like a hefty wire you got, then again you've got some nice equipment hooked up through those wires.

.......thx 'Maniac, the Integra Research and Bryston are the latest additions.....so i wanted some suitable garden-hose cabling to fit the bill .... yeah it was built out of bulk Canare 4S11 (4 strand x 14g =11g) and i put locking 'nanas on the ends.......it's quite hefty cable w/ a light grey jacket fwiw. You have the option with 4S11 to wire the strands separately to bi-amp if you wanted as well.

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What to Buy, and Where?

Many thanks for this thread!

Can I get some suggestions on "ready-to-use" progressive component cables? Which lower cost brands to look at which will be perfectly good hooking up the DVD to the TV, and where the best prices are? In one of the other threads Wal-Mart was mentioned however if that is a source, do they carry this kind? Or is progressive component vs. interlaced component also a waste of money?
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Equip connection cables

I have had very good success with interconnection cables from XSCargo in Ottawa. These cables are identical to the "gold plated" versions sold in high-end botiques.
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Many thanks for this thread!
Or is progressive component vs. interlaced component also a waste of money?
A component cable is a component cable. No such thing as a progressive component cable. A component cable is basicly 3 x 75 ohm coax cables, with Connectors at both ends. It does not matter if the signal going down it is progressive or interlaced. There are plenty of cables out there that will serve your needs. Check the FAQ.

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Many thanks for this thread!

Can I get some suggestions on "ready-to-use" progressive component cables? Which lower cost brands to look at which will be perfectly good hooking up the DVD to the TV, and where the best prices are? In one of the other threads Wal-Mart was mentioned however if that is a source, do they carry this kind? Or is progressive component vs. interlaced component also a waste of money?
Dougjp,

The Ecoustics website (www.ecoustics.com) provides some informative articles regarding audio/video cables, what to look for in the construction of various cables, and things to avoid when shopping around for them.

The articles are a good read and hopefully they will help lift any veils of confusion you may have.

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Thanks guys. Lots of information however I guess to answer my question (minus the progressive/interlaced part) will remain elusive. I'll continue looking for a test/review site which gets into specific makes, prices and performance for cable sold in Canada.
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Doug, for an exact answer to your question I would say just go to Zellars and buy Philips Component video cables. They are cheap, well built and look great.
Or as stan F said, go to xscargo, they have some really good quality cables at great prices as well. As long you aren't buying really thin wires, all should be good

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I'll continue looking for a test/review site which gets into specific makes, prices and performance for cable sold in Canada.
Tough to find. Hardly any double blind testing done. Most "tests" are simply marketing by the manufacturer of the cable.

The link in the first post is one of the few tests on cable that I've ever seen and it wasn't double blind (which it should be).

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The point is that any cables are going to be fine. Does get suckered/pressured into buying Monster because they will not out perform less expensive brands.

I like Accoustic research for good quality and decent price.
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This has all been super helpful and confirmed my beliefs. I would like to see a similar article on the merits of connecting an HD PVR to a TV using an HDMI / DVI cable versus connecting via component.
The FAQ seems to suggest there should be virtually no difference in picutre quality but then makes some statement that on LCD TVs (I have a rear projection LCD) there may be a difference, ie. HDMI/DVI may give a better quality picture than component. (Not in the DVD player context, but in a HD-PVR to TV context).
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The HD signal gets to my satellite receivers from the dish through a 200 foot run of cheap Belden 9116 RG6 coax.

Now, Monster would have me believe that connecting my TV with THEIR, absurdly priced product, for the 6 foot connection between the receivers and the display will somehow make the image look better than if I used the same Belden RG6 with different connectors?

Preposterous! All this cable marketing is smoke and mirrors. They are the snake oil salesmen of the digital age.

I personally have NEVER seen, or heard, a difference between a cheap cable and a costly one. I'll admit to a degree of skepticism when I read a post from someone who says he does.

Still, this is not to say that all cables are built alike. Anyone really wanting to understand the differences in cable construction should do a little studying. Differences in insulation type and coverage varies widely in different cables and this can, repeat CAN make a difference in a few, rather select, situations.

A good place for a brief overview of cable construction is at http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...ieldcables.php
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