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post #1 of 71 (permalink) Old 2014-10-18, 02:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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Dolby ATMOS

Hello friends, I have recently seen some AV receivers have starting appearing in the market with Dolby ATMOS. Is it really worhwhile to look for this technology for your home theater environment?
I will appreciate your advice.
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I'd wait but then I've never been an early adopter. In this case my reasons to wait and see are as follows
1. How many movies that I want to see/own are going to be released with Dolby Atmos tracks. If like 3D has become, Atmos becomes just a gimmick in kids' films, forget it.
2. Does DTS have a similar technology in the works? I once had a receiver that could play Dolby Digital but not the DTS equivalent. It made almost every movie purchase a challenge. Never again.
3. Atmos is currently a first generation product. It will get better with time and the price of the equipment (which does include the need for additional speakers) will come down.
4. Lastly there's the WAF to think about. I'm not sure that at the moment I could sell her on even more speakers than our current 7.1 system. That will take time.

So I would wait for now.
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I agree. Instead of getting an ATMOS receiver, I would go for either a 7.1 or 9.2. Chances are the 7.1 would support the 9.2. Of what I heard, the extra $ isn't worth it. Search for it and you will find unimpressed first buyers.

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Thanks for your advice. It is too early to jump into this technology. I was reading about it on Future shop website, you don't need any specially coded Blu-ray disks. All you have to do is set your Blu-ray player/ Game Console to PCM audio and the rest will be done by the new Dolby ATMOS enabled receiver.
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Does DTS have a similar technology in the works? I once had a receiver that could play Dolby Digital but not the DTS equivalent. It made almost every movie purchase a challenge. Never again.
Yeah, I am currently looking to replace my current receiver exactly for this. I'm still rocking a Kenwood VR-307 that I've had for a little over 15 years now. I just wish the damn thing would die so that it would be easier to convince the wife to change it.

I don't know however if missing Atmos is as significant as missing DTS. At least, I know for me DTS is definatly a must on my next purchase (I don't think its possible to get one without DTS anyways) but I really coudn't care less about Atmos as I know I'm not in the market to change my speakers yet. As long as it can be downscaled to either regular DD or DTS so that I can still get 5.1 sound.
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post #6 of 71 (permalink) Old 2014-10-20, 12:02 PM
 
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I am also in the market for a new receiver and Dolby ATMOS is on my short list.

Onkyo is currently offering this feature on their 7.2 channel TX-NR636 and TX-NR737 receivers together with 4K up-scaling and HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 compatibility. These units are within my price range. Onkyo also offers 9.2 and 11.2 capabilities on their more expensive units if interested.
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I would also like to see wireless speakers that go on the roof....the last thing I want to do is run speaker wires on the outside of the drywall to the roof as my room has been mostly sound proofed.
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You can use new speakers that beam object-oriented sounds off your ceilings. You don't need to mount speakers in the ceiling.

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I saw the modules that go on top of the front left and right speakers, but that just seemed to me to not be the best option, that the speakers on the actual roof would be better.

Have to wait and see I guess
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I have not seen any setup at any store with Dolby ATMOS yet, so no idea how it sounds with ceiling reflection of the sound. I have some reviews of the people who who Denon receivers and they were quite happy. Last night we watched "Transformers - Age of Extinction" on Blue-ray. this move is in Dolby ATMOS. SInce I don't have ATMOS receiver so it played this movie in DTS-TrueHD.

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Listened to a Dolby Atmos speaker set up with a Pioneer receiver at Magnolia in the BB Galleria Mall in Buffalo.

Was not impressed. Thought the Pioneer speakers with those dual forward/upward speaker design would do the job. Well it didn't.

Don't want to write off Dolby Atmos yet as I want to give them another chance but I hope I can find a set up in Toronto where everything works.

I'm thinking that to get it really to work properly you need ceiling mounted speakers and not upward firing speakers. We will see.
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Thought the Pioneer speakers with those dual forward/upward speaker design would do the job. Well it didn't.
It's extremely important that this sort of speaker be wired properly and that the setup in the AVR is done properly. In a recent optimization I performed, the AVR was set up to send "rear" speaker audio to the "upward" speaker (these were for the "height" speakers in my particular instance). Obviously a less than ideal situation. The wiring or setup may have been incorrect in the installation you viewed. This stuff is not so easy to set up, even with the "auto speaker setup" if the AVR is configured incorrectly... Need to pay particular attention to the setup for rear or zone, etc. speakers

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I agree with 57. Many a times I have been in specialty audio/video shops where their amplifier wasn't set right or on the wrong setting. Never wanted to be served by pushy salesperson when they wouldn't take constructive criticism when I would tell them that the sound coming out didn't seem right.

I'm no specialist but my ears don't lie to me on purpose.

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Well I ended up buying the Denon x4100 and the Onkyo Skh-410 atmos modules.

Man what a difference in my theater. We had my wife's family over and watched Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol in DSU and in one scene there was a knock on the door behind us and everyone turned their heads. Made it worthwhile for me right there!!
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A "knock from a door behind us" is easily heard from any properly set up DD5.1 (6.1 or 7.1) system and doesn't require ATMOS.

The main benefit of ATMOS is to generate a "height" component to the audio.

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/dol...tup/index.html

For example, here's how to set up a 7.1.4 system (the last "4" refers to 4 ceiling speakers or upward-firing speakers.)

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/dol...-4-setups.html

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