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post #16 of 35 (permalink) Old 2013-01-30, 12:38 PM
 
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The issue with hitting a bandwidth limit is fairly limited. It only occurs if you have Ultimate TV *and* Lighting 20 *and* are using VSDL *and* have three live HD streams. Having had Ultimate TV for over three years the number of times I have been in a situation of legimately trying to watch/record three different streams was fairly limited. It is also worth noting that this same issue will not occur in FiON neighbourhoods as they have significantly more headroom on bandwidth.
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post #17 of 35 (permalink) Old 2013-01-31, 01:14 AM Thread Starter
 
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From my vantage point, those occur more than one would think

How many tv's do you have? I frequently encounter installations where people have 3 or more tv's. Once I inform them about the fact that there are only 3 streams, they usually get upset. At least they are now all HD.

Also, not trying to start an argument, just confused by what you mean. The part about VDSL, do you mean compared to FiON? Because they only use VDSL (VDSL2) for ultimate, and not ADSL2+ like some other markets sometimes do. Wasn't sure if that's what you meant.


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post #18 of 35 (permalink) Old 2013-02-01, 03:14 PM
 
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It seems increasingly people are reducing the number of tvs. Most people I know have two now.

As for my other statement, I am aware of MTS only using two methods for Ultimate TV, VDSL and FiON (fiber). I was just trying to say that in the fiber neighbourhoods the reduction in speed on Lighting 20 will likely not apply as the FiON network is speced out to support up to 250. In the even rarer setup that a customer had Lighting 250 and Ultimate TV I would expect the Lighting 250 maximum speed would take a similar performance hit when 3 HD streams are in use.
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Hard to say. I'd be interested to find out what rate they run the fibre at. It's was last May the last time I touched fibre so its getting murky.

Being GPON, maybe it IS gigabit link speed from the ONT to the hub? If that's the case, I would think Lightning 250 AND 3 HD wouldn't even come close to maxing out the connection...?

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post #20 of 35 (permalink) Old 2013-03-23, 01:39 PM
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Just for your info, I have the FiON50 plan and I have did some tests and SD streams use 2.6 Mbps each and HD streams use 6.7 Mbps each. I have run 3 HD streams and it showed I was using 20.3 Mbps total. I then did a speedtest and downloaded some files and the total bandwidth with 3 HD streams running was 70.5 Mbps.
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post #21 of 35 (permalink) Old 2013-03-23, 10:05 PM
 
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Hi JimmyAplha,

Could you please also run a SpeedTest with no tv streams running as a comparison. I know first hand that 2 HD steams does not impact Lighting20 however adding a third HD steam will. Just wondering if there is something similar at play on FiON!
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I have tried some tests with the receivers off and the download still reaches almost 50 Mbps, and with having all 3 HD streams going it still shows almost 50 Mbps download for Internet only.
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post #23 of 35 (permalink) Old 2013-03-26, 08:53 AM
 
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Thanks for testing. This confirms what I suspected, that while 3 HD streams impacts people on copper service (aka not FiON eligible) at the Lighting 20 plan, FiON would not see a similar impact until the FiON 250 plan if at all. I doubt we will find anyone with FiON 250 that can test and confirm though.
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I have Ultimate TV with the Lighting Plan. Will I have 3 HD streams or is that limited to Lightning Plus. Finding information on the MTS site is frustrating at best !
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post #25 of 35 (permalink) Old 2013-03-26, 12:22 PM
 
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Everyone has 3HD service regardless of your Internet service.
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post #26 of 35 (permalink) Old 2015-09-04, 10:56 AM
 
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Explanation Of MTS Ultimate Tv Streams?

I know that you can watch 3 HD streams at the same time with MTS, but is it 3 HD only? What I am getting at is whether you get 3 streams period, whether it is 1 HD and 2 SD, 2 HD and 1 SD, etc, or if you can have 3 HD and 1 or more SD at the same time. I have 2 HD tvs and 2 SD tv.s, would we be able to watch live tv on them all at the same time? Thanks in advance.
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post #27 of 35 (permalink) Old 2015-09-04, 11:26 AM
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From the MTS Ultimate TV Features page.
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You can also watch or record up to three live programs in HD (high definition) or SD (standard definition) at the same time.
https://www.mts.ca/mts/personal/tv/w...te+tv+features
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post #28 of 35 (permalink) Old 2015-09-04, 11:38 AM
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The only way you can watch more than 3 live streams right now is if 2 TVs are watching the same channel. Here's a more complete explanation of MTS TV capabilities:
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With MTS Ultimate TV you can watch up to 7 things at the same time:
  • Live: Watch or record up to 3 live shows at the same time in HD (high definition) or SD (standard definition).
  • Recorded: Watch up to 4 recorded shows in HD or SD.
Source:How many TVs can I watch? | MTS

MTS was testing 4 HD streams, but that seems to be on the back burner right now.

A couple of other points that might affect your situation. The MTS PVR is a whole-home PVR, so you can watch any recorded show on any TV. The STBs are all HD-capable and will down-scale an HD channel or recorded program to an SD TV if needed.

Once I got a PVR, I basically stopped watching live TV. The time you save in skipping commercials is well worth it. You can also schedule your recordings to more convenient times when you aren't watching live events like sports.
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Thanks for the info guys.
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post #30 of 35 (permalink) Old 2015-09-07, 03:22 PM
 
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Being new with MTS I feel unhappy that MTS only offers 3 streams. Bell Fibe has 4 streams, Rogers and Videotron have 8 streams. Can not help feeling that MTS is behind technology-wise compared with other Canadian BDUs, yet enjoying the monopoly it has.
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