The issue with hitting a bandwidth limit is fairly limited. It only occurs if you have Ultimate TV *and* Lighting 20 *and* are using VSDL *and* have three live HD streams. Having had Ultimate TV for over three years the number of times I have been in a situation of legimately trying to watch/record three different streams was fairly limited. It is also worth noting that this same issue will not occur in FiON neighbourhoods as they have significantly more headroom on bandwidth.
From my vantage point, those occur more than one would think
How many tv's do you have? I frequently encounter installations where people have 3 or more tv's. Once I inform them about the fact that there are only 3 streams, they usually get upset. At least they are now all HD.
Also, not trying to start an argument, just confused by what you mean. The part about VDSL, do you mean compared to FiON? Because they only use VDSL (VDSL2) for ultimate, and not ADSL2+ like some other markets sometimes do. Wasn't sure if that's what you meant.
It seems increasingly people are reducing the number of tvs. Most people I know have two now.
As for my other statement, I am aware of MTS only using two methods for Ultimate TV, VDSL and FiON (fiber). I was just trying to say that in the fiber neighbourhoods the reduction in speed on Lighting 20 will likely not apply as the FiON network is speced out to support up to 250. In the even rarer setup that a customer had Lighting 250 and Ultimate TV I would expect the Lighting 250 maximum speed would take a similar performance hit when 3 HD streams are in use.
Just for your info, I have the FiON50 plan and I have did some tests and SD streams use 2.6 Mbps each and HD streams use 6.7 Mbps each. I have run 3 HD streams and it showed I was using 20.3 Mbps total. I then did a speedtest and downloaded some files and the total bandwidth with 3 HD streams running was 70.5 Mbps.
Could you please also run a SpeedTest with no tv streams running as a comparison. I know first hand that 2 HD steams does not impact Lighting20 however adding a third HD steam will. Just wondering if there is something similar at play on FiON!
Thanks for testing. This confirms what I suspected, that while 3 HD streams impacts people on copper service (aka not FiON eligible) at the Lighting 20 plan, FiON would not see a similar impact until the FiON 250 plan if at all. I doubt we will find anyone with FiON 250 that can test and confirm though.
I know that you can watch 3 HD streams at the same time with MTS, but is it 3 HD only? What I am getting at is whether you get 3 streams period, whether it is 1 HD and 2 SD, 2 HD and 1 SD, etc, or if you can have 3 HD and 1 or more SD at the same time. I have 2 HD tvs and 2 SD tv.s, would we be able to watch live tv on them all at the same time? Thanks in advance.
MTS was testing 4 HD streams, but that seems to be on the back burner right now.
A couple of other points that might affect your situation. The MTS PVR is a whole-home PVR, so you can watch any recorded show on any TV. The STBs are all HD-capable and will down-scale an HD channel or recorded program to an SD TV if needed.
Once I got a PVR, I basically stopped watching live TV. The time you save in skipping commercials is well worth it. You can also schedule your recordings to more convenient times when you aren't watching live events like sports.
Being new with MTS I feel unhappy that MTS only offers 3 streams. Bell Fibe has 4 streams, Rogers and Videotron have 8 streams. Can not help feeling that MTS is behind technology-wise compared with other Canadian BDUs, yet enjoying the monopoly it has.