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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 2018-01-14, 08:50 AM Thread Starter
 
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4K TV with Fibe HD box. Happy?

Hi all,

I have a 46" Toshiba TV 8 years old which is superb but I want to go to 65". My couch is 10 feet from the TV so an HD TV would be fine but of course only 4K sets are sold in that size. I just want to change the TV. I don't want to buy new HDMI cables or a new receiver. My current Pioneer receiver does all the switching and I want to leave it that way (for now).

What has been your experience with a 4K TV using the HD Fibe-TV box?

Thanks, Rich
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 2018-01-14, 02:37 PM
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Unless you are a sports fan, there isn't much available in 4K. Again, it all depends on your taste.

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I'm not interested in 4K TV programming. My question is what are people's experiences with a 4K TV using the HD Fibe-TV box (VIP-2262).
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Danster, if you have access to a new 65" or bigger HD TV, let me know.
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My friend has two 4k TV's both on Fibe TV. One with a 4K box, one just HD box. The pic on the 4K looks better on sports channels when shown in 4K but other then that the pic quality is more or less the same on both TV's.

Unless you like sports and a few movies in 4k its not worth getting the 4K box at the moment.
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A 4K TV also know as Ultra HD (2160P) using a Set Top Box that outputs in Full HD (1080P) will be decent but you're TV will be doing the upscaling to match the display ratio of the LCD Panel, and the quality of this can differ depending on different manufacturers.

What you need to do is look at different Ultra HD TV's (2160P) and see how well they upconvert full hd (1080P) content into Ultra HD (2160P) usually you can go to a store and see if they can output content that is 1080p, basically if they play a 1080p blue ray disc/player on the 4k tv and you can judge the picture quality for yourself, there is nothing else on here that will help you determine that other than you going and watching it for yourself since you do not own the tv yet and you are planning to buy one so its up to which ever suits your needs.
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My TV is 4 years old but had the latest UHD upgrade which supposedly adds HDR to my panel. Anything that the TV shows me is upscale. When you do put it on a HD channel which is of high bitrate, the output is outstanding. I've watched a few sports on it but haven't been pushed to too much WOW factor, but that's just me. My own perception, not anybodies. We could be 2 watching the same thing at the same time on the same TV and we both would have different opinion.

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I'm definitely not planning on getting the Fibe 4K box. The only 4K content we would watch would be via Chromecast.
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As far as I can tell, I am able to watch 4K Netflix on my 4k Sony TV via the Fibe 4k PVR. It certainly looks good to me.
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Only good thing about getting the 4K box is more HD space to record on.

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To answer the original question, I would say you will find the new 4k tv to provide a slightly better picture than the original using the current pvr. I too would hesitate to jump to the 4k pvr. I happen to have one but that is mostly cause the original was failing and required replacement.
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My experience is that the newer 4K panels will provide a better picture than a 1080p panel regardless of the source. I haven't used a Fibe box with 4K but every other source looks much better. The picture is excellent with 1080p or 1080i content. One issue with Fibe is that most content is 720p. That won't change with any of their receivers or any TV. A 4K TV has more pixels to do scaling so, theoretically, it should look better than a 1080p TV with 720p content.
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Thanks, this has been helpful.

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I have a 4k pvr plus a few secondary hd receivers. When comparing the 4k with the others on the same tv, I definitely saw a improvement in pq with 4k even though i was comparing non 4k channels. I did the comparison on a panny plasma, led Samsung and a Hisense 4k tv. One would only assume that the 4k receiver has better video processing hardware as it is the newest model
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That's my experience as well. The video processing chip that does menus, information and other overlays usually improves with each generation of video device. Some early HD equipment had a low quality HD picture due to the degradation caused by the video processor. 4K video processors would need to have higher bandwidth and would typically be better than HD processors.
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