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post #76 of 101 (permalink) Old 2016-10-12, 07:15 PM
 
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I just got Rogers and all of my channels are usually 720p. I am disappointed that we are not getting the better1080 resolution. I don't buy the argument that 720p is better than 1080p. People who agree with this should go to 480p if they think that the lower resolution is better.
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1080p is better than 720p for sure, but outside of sharpness, 720p can look better than 1080i once there's a lot of motion on screen. Interlacing can lead to other artifacts on screen that may be distracting to some viewers.
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So would you sat 1080i is better for sports, while 720p is better for movies then?

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So I was able to view some Rogers Cable at a friends house who has the same TV as me and his picture seemed much sharper and not as pixelated as my service with Fibe. Fibe also seems a lot more "hazy". Is this something that can be resolved with a call to Bell or is this the norm for the Fibe service?
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^^^ There are many factor involved and Bell is unlikely to be much help, and the service may not be the problem.

The difference you are seeing could be the due to the settings on the TV, i.e., the calibration is not the same on the two TV's. This was a major factor for TV many years ago but is less of an issue for newer models. Calibration involves tweaking the settings for contrast, brightness, sharpness, colour, tint with a measuring tool. You can do a very simplistic adjustment yourself with a test pattern, but do some research here so learn more about the process and what your options might be.
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Rogers quality vs Bell

Maybe got my question answered. Just switched from Rogers to Bell Fibe and thought the Bell picture quality was inferior, colours seemed washed out, whites muted. Just now read that Bell sends signal at 720 and Rogers at 1050 resulting in a sharper picture on Rogers
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My understanding is that Rogers passes whatever the broadcasters send, so 1080i for 1080i and 720P for 720P, but Bell converts everything to 720P. I've had both Rogers and Bell and don't come to the same conclusions that you do regarding picture quality.

There are advantages and disadvantage of the two resolutions. See FAQ here.
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post #83 of 101 (permalink) Old 2017-02-26, 07:07 PM
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Had gigabit fibe installed this past week and notice the same quality issues as op. The unusual thing is I'm coming from bell satellite and the picture was noticeably better on that.
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I have had Bell satellite for a long time and the picture has always been great. I don't think ill ever change. Now if they will only get home pvr...
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post #85 of 101 (permalink) Old 2017-03-05, 11:08 AM
 
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In your opinion. In my opinion, having optimized many home theatres with Bell or Rogers, the difference is not significant and if anything the picture is "crisper" on Rogers, with a softer picture on Bell Fibe. As I mentioned earlier, some people like the Fibe picture. I've also optimized systems for many people who have switched from Rogers to Bell and although they may prefer the Bell user experience, they miss the excellent picture they had with Rogers, because, frankly, 720P is not as good as 1080i, especially for the channels that broadcast in 1080i. The extra conversion caused by Bell to 720P for 1080i channels can in no way be healthy for picture quality.

Which is better? A 1080i picture converted by a TV to 1080P (a very easy upconversion), or a 1080i picture down-converted by Bell to 720P, then up-converted by your STB or TV to 1080P (a "more difficult" conversion). I say the answer is clear.
I'd just to ask a question related to this interesting topic. I am considering switching from Cogeco cable to Bell Fibe. I have a 1080p TV (50" Pioneer Kuro PDP 1080p version). Picture quality is very important to me so I am following thread with great interest. My question: is it correct to conclude that, whether you are dealing with 720p Bell Fibe or 1080i Cogeco/Rogers, your 1080p TV will upconvert either one to 1080p so, in the end, you're watching a 1080p picture (albeit an "artificial" 1080p, if I can put it that way)? I apologize in advance if I have got it all wrong but I am just looking for clarification so that I can make a more informed choice as to whether I should switch from cable to Fibe.
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....is it correct to conclude that, whether you are dealing with 720p Bell Fibe or 1080i Cogeco/Rogers, your 1080p TV will upconvert either one to 1080p
Yes, that's correct.
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...I am just looking for clarification so that I can make a more informed choice as to whether I should switch from cable to Fibe.
Your 1080P TV will also "upconvert" a 480i signal to 1080P, but I don't see how this matters in deciding between Cable & Fibe, especially after you read my post and quoted it in your post. A 4K TV will upconvert any incoming signal to 4K, but again, this doesn't really matter a hoot when comparing providers.

Typically there are other factors that should go into the decision on which provider - like whether you like the equipment, whether you get the bundle you want (most people have more than just TV service), whether you get the channels you want, at which price, etc.

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post #88 of 101 (permalink) Old 2018-04-08, 09:24 AM
 
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TSN HD soccer feed this weekend terrible quality 4k fibe TV....is it a 480p fee

I'm watching the Arsenal soccer match this morning and the feed quality is awful and pixelated.....probably more like a 480p feed. Can someone check to see if they are having the same issues.
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Images of the poor pixelation
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@jphccfc : You may wish to try turning the sharpness setting on your TV down somewhat (or a lot) and it may help with the halos, stair-stepping, macroblocking, etc.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/30-5...-new-hdtv.html

Is the original programming available in HD? Many of the programmes we get from Europe are SD (576i) or similar... I've seen a lot of this on (the little) soccer (I've seen) or other TV from Europe that's not HD to begin with... Other people would have more insight than I, since I don't watch soccer myself.

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