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post #76 of 1994 (permalink) Old 2005-06-29, 08:43 AM
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I have a 3100 and a 6100, a 20" dish with 2 dual output LNBs and 2 SW22s.
I assume you mean SW21 switches. Are the switches inside or outside your house? If you don't know.....do you know if you have 4 cables or 2 cables going into your house?
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Similar setup?

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I assume you mean SW21 switches. Are the switches inside or outside your house? If you don't know.....do you know if you have 4 cables or 2 cables going into your house?

I have a similar if not same setup. 2 dual LNBs and 2 SW21 switches outside the house and 2 cables running into the house. I also have a RCA D6520 multi-switch. Can I run the 2 cables into the multi-switch, and then run 2 cables into the 9200 and 1 into the 6100?

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That RCA switch only has 2 inputs; you would need 4.

So, both Ed27 and Audiolab: what I would do in your respective shoes is use a SW44, and use my example #3 for setup.

The DPP Twin with seperators is good if you cannot run 2 cables to the receiver. The big downside is you can only run 2 receivers off the twin, unless you also get a DPP SW44.......... in other words a fair amount of bother.

The word on the street is that the 9220 package will come with the SW44, so if that's the case, it makes life easy.

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post #79 of 1994 (permalink) Old 2005-06-29, 10:39 AM
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There are so many variations that can be done.

If both Ed27 and Audiolab have only two wire running into house it is a tough call.

Audiolab said his dish is on roof.

I would have to get more info to give a recommendation.

Things like:

Can you have 2 more lines going into house?
Can you have 2 lines going to 9200?

There are pro's and con's to each setup.

it may make sense to buy the DPP twin and separator and go on roof to change the lnb.
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That RCA switch only has 2 inputs; you would need 4.
Not only that but it can NOT handle 2 satellites.

So you would have to run 2 cables into house into the RCA switch and then 2 more wires from 82 lnb. You can then join the 82 with 91 *after* the rca switch.

If you have all the equipment already......there is nothing wrong with that method as well.

personally. I like the DPP twin method and when I get it I am hoping it will work.
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post #81 of 1994 (permalink) Old 2005-06-29, 11:28 AM
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Dpp44

It was discussed a little in an earlier thread but it is not clear to me.

If you have a DDP twin and then a DDP44:

1) I believe you have 2 wires running into house

2) Can you still run a single line to the Dual tuners and use separators?

3) If you can do #2 does that mean you will have extra outputs? ex. you can have a 9200, 5200, 2x 5900?
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That is 100% correct, Joe. As long as you have the DPP Twin going into a DPP SW44, you can use 1 cable each of the receivers. The 9200 and the 5200 will each need a seperator.

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Can you use a separator to have lines going to non-dual machines?

I would assume no but if you can........that would make it a possiblity of 8 lines from the DPP44.
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I am pretty sure you can't use the seperator for the non-dual machines. How the sperator works is by knowing if the 2 tuners are looking for the same transponder or not, and then telling the switch what frequencies to send down that single cable. With 2 different receivers; because they are seperate units there is no way for the receivers to talk to each other; to co-ordinate what signals they need.

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As long as you have the DPP Twin going into a DPP SW44,
You can also use the DPP44 using a dish pro twin or quad (non plus) lnbs. You do not have to use the DPP Twin.

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You can also use the DPP44 using a dish pro twin or quad (non plus) lnbs. You do not have to use the DPP Twin.

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Is there any advantage or disadvantage in using the non plus version of the lnb?
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Just so it is clear in my head

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That RCA switch only has 2 inputs; you would need 4.

So, both Ed27 and Audiolab: what I would do in your respective shoes is use a SW44, and use my example #3 for setup.

The DPP Twin with seperators is good if you cannot run 2 cables to the receiver. The big downside is you can only run 2 receivers off the twin, unless you also get a DPP SW44.......... in other words a fair amount of bother.

The word on the street is that the 9220 package will come with the SW44, so if that's the case, it makes life easy.

Thanks Ken,
I just want to make sure I've got it right. In modifying example #4, I want to take those 2 cables coming from the 2 SW21 and feed into the multi-switch. Then from the 4 outputs...feed 2 cables to the 9200 and 1 to the 6100. What you are saying is that this won't work. Is it because the multi-switch can't handle the signals from 91 and 82 coming in on one cable and then distributing them?
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Is there any advantage or disadvantage in using the non plus version of the lnb?
The non pro should be cheaper and easier to find as there is alot of the floating around. Just wanted to let everybody know that they dont need the DPP Twin and that they can use the Dish Pro stuff, if you already have it.
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Is it because the multi-switch can't handle the signals from 91 and 82 coming in on one cable and then distributing them?
Yes thats correct.
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What you want to do is take the SW-21's out of the equation. So you would have 4 cables running from your LNB's into the SW44, then you could use the 4 outputs; using 2 of them for the 9200, and one for the 6100. You would have one spare output in case you add an additional receiver.

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Is it because the multi-switch can't handle the signals from 91 and 82 coming in on one cable and then distributing them?
That is sort of the reason. It's a bit of a simplification, but that's the idea.

The main problem is with the SW21's you have the ability to watch 2 kinds of transponders. With 3 tuners in your system; you may need to watch 3 different kinds of transponders. There are 4 kinds of transponders; Odd on 91, Even on 91, Odd on 82, Even on 82. With 4 inputs on the SW44, you are covering all of the 4 different transponder types.

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