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post #76 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-06-08, 08:46 PM
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Since it was on NBC, I decided to watch the Detroit races this past weekend. Another frustrating experience for me:

1. The rain-delayed Saturday race switched channels at 6PM with about 20 minutes remaining. Not much good to me since I had recorded the event and was watching late in the evening (having added 3 hours just in case...)

2. Although I was able to see all of the race on Sunday, there were far too many full-course yellows for my liking and I also came to the realization (not for the first time), that, although certain drivers have more skill than others, the luck of the yellow plays too much of a roll in deciding the winners/losers of a race. Some call this "strategy", but really, it's often mostly luck.

I realized that I don't really miss IndyCar much this year.
That's the american style of racing which I loathe. Unfortunately Formula 1 has been heading in that direction for quite some time.

I stumbled upon this article just now.

The contract between Sportsnet and IndyCar ran out following the 2018 season and would have to be renegotiated. This happened just as there was a change in senior management at Sportsnet and all programming and spending put under review. At or about the same time, IndyCar took its TV marketing “in-house.”

This IndyCar TV marketing department was – apparently – very blasť about a TV deal for Canada – assuming, presumably, that a new arrangement with Sportsnet was a no-brainer. As a result, they didn’t look at alternatives. I know, for instance, that nobody from IndyCar ever approached TSN.

When they did get around to calling Sportsnet – not that long ago – IndyCar was shocked to learn that Sportsnet wasn’t interested. The review I referenced several paragraphs ago had determined that IndyCar was on the chopping block. To make matters worse, none of the people IndyCar talked to at Sportsnet were auto racing fans, so the series didn’t have a champion.
Ha! Rogers head honcho's don't even care for Indycar. And Indycar's in house marketing team fumbled the ball. Unbelievable! If Indycar negotiated rights with TSN, I wouldn't even need to subscribe to any Sportsnet channels. What a missed opportunity. I dream of one channel having rights to all motorsports. For too long motorsports has taken a backseat to other sports.

I can't even watch the Weathertech sports car championship online for free since they secured a deal with Bell that puts it on Discovery Velocity. Terrible! Just terrible. So fragmented! Should I even subscribe to a sports channel at all anymore? I'm tempted to end sports subscription permanently. And just do away with motorsports all together if that's how they want to treat motorsports. Like a 2nd class citizen.
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post #77 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-06-10, 08:39 AM
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Sadly, I think this deal will kill Indycar in Canada. The only races I've watched were the NBC ones, and absolutely nobody seems to be talking about it except around here. The series is invisible.
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post #78 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-06-11, 03:03 PM
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@Tridus - as I mentioned before, I stopped watching this year...been watching my whole life.

I'm not jumping through hoops and spending good money to watch IndyCar. I watched the Indy 500 and will catch up on the highlights and use my free time for something else.

I sometimes wish that some of the manufacturers in F1, and the Chevy/Honda Indycar programs would just all bail on both series they are in and create a new open wheel series. There is too many levels of "management" and stakeholders. Guys like Tony George almost killed Indycar, and it wouldn't take much to get a new series going and bury the remains of what we have now. Some great tracks would easily switch - too many are being held hostage and would love a new series to appreciate them. Liberty Media is turning F1 into a parade.

Just imagine, names like Penske, Ganassi, Andretti, Honda and Chevrolet joining up with Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, and other F1 teams to start a new series, with new rules, and without multiple levels of rights holders, on most of the classic tracks. I know I would watch.
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post #79 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-06-12, 08:53 PM
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I don't think F1 being a parade is Liberty's fault. They're working on fixing the rules as best they can, but that mess was in place before them. The change a few years ago to make cars bigger and more "aggressive" looking had the side effect of making Monaco basically impossible to race on, as the track is so narrow that the bigger cars can't race on it. The budget end is so lopsided that it's effectively two different leagues.

I tend to like the job Liberty is doing overall, but the stuff that really needs fixing in F1 is also the stuff that entrenched interests in the teams are most unwilling to change. A new series won't magically fix that Ferrari is going to want to spend a whole lot more money than Penske.
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post #80 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-06-23, 04:05 PM
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Scott Dixon has really thrown the season away. Unfortunate at COTA with the yellow, gets caught up in a crash at Indy, crashes out at Detroit, crashes out at Texas and now Road America.

He was so fast today at Road America but he decided to be tentative and make an error which caused him to get hit from behind. Had he not got hit while being the leading car with black tires he would have been in 2nd place by the second stint. After that I have no doubt he would have finished 2nd.

Unbelievable! Dixon should be right up there in the championship but when it was comes to racing wheel to wheel against other cars he's just got poor racecraft. I think I've said the same thing in other seasons too. What a shame!

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post #81 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-07-31, 03:47 PM
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I haven't been following IndyCar very closely this year due to half the races not being on TV, so I forgot to record the last race. I found the results on the main Indycar website and was surprised to see a 30 minute condensed video of the race. Not a bad way to watch, but you already know who wins (which doesn't matter that much if there's good racing to watch, unfortunately....)
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post #82 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-08-27, 12:40 AM
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Iím silently praying that Sportsnet puts Indycar back on SN360 like the past few years or it goes to TSN. Someone refresh my memory, but did SN360 show Indycar qualifying or was it just shown for the Indy 500?
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post #83 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-08-27, 09:09 AM Thread Starter
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From 2013 to 2015, Sportsnet was showing qualifying for all NBC races.
From 2016 to 2018, only qualy for the Indy 500 and Toronto was broadcast.

TSN would be better than Sportsnet for IndyCar in my opinion simply because TSN could continue to show the race during commercials like they do for F1 and NASCAR.
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post #84 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-08-27, 09:18 AM
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SN could do that if they wanted to, though. They don't want to.

TSN would be better simply because they probably wouldn't stick it on an outrageously overpriced channel that almost nobody gets while showing the Jays on 7 channels at the same time.

Honestly now that it's not on TV, I forgot Indycar was happening.
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post #85 of 85 (permalink) Old 2019-08-27, 12:08 PM
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Yup I agree. Iím not paying $20/month for Sportsnet World to watch Indycar. I watch the races shown on the other Sportsnet channels and NBC that I get as part of my cable subscription. Iím hoping that there was enough backlash over this yearís deal that it goes back to either a regular Sportsnet channel or TSN buys the rights and shows both qualifying and the race. Iíd probably get the NBC Gold Indycar Pass if it was available in Canada next year.

Does anyone know how long this Sportsnet World deal was for (only 2019)? Indycar really blew it for Canadian fans by not negotiating with anyone other than Sportsnet.
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