Thanks to DR. and TKG ! The links were usefull and very informative , Im still going to keep my "stoopid proof "phone untill something that is water/shock/cold/hot /damn tough out of the box and smart!!!!! is available,,, All manufacturers have the ability to waterproof anything and, in doing so it makes it durable and and quite capable of lasting 3 years. If a little more consideration went to the end user and thier product was just plain tough, they could sell alot of them.... The company that figures this out and offers it at even the "going rate" for a smartphone will make a boatload of cash ! I will buy it!