ON - Niagara Peninsula - OTA - Page 3 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

 8Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

post #31 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-07-07, 06:50 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 529
Hijumper,

as a SS-2000 owner; if going with a directional antenna you will not find one with better results than the SS-2000.

I am receiving every channel that I should be receiving based on my location. I am even receiving some fringe channels that I should not be receiving as well as I do.

Crispy
Crispy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-07-07, 09:47 AM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,334
Can you report on all the channels you receive in the Welland area please?
thenewdc is offline  
post #33 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-07-07, 01:20 PM
OTA Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,878
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenewdc
Can you report on all the channels you receive in the Welland area please?
His results are already posted in this thread.



stampeder is offline  
 
post #34 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-07-13, 04:25 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Welland, ON
Posts: 271
Ridgeway/Fort Erie questions

About to move to Ridgeway/Fort Erie about half a block from Lake Erie. I would imagine that Buffalo will not be a problem to pull in OTA. What do you guys think abou anything coming from Toronto.

Buffalo will be almost straight west of me while Toronto would be directly North. What antennae would you guys recommend? I would like to have it go into my attic.

Yamaha 5660, Samsung 50" DLP, Paradigm Monitor Series, Bev 6000, Dishnet 501 PVR
HydrogenCyanide is offline  
post #35 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-07-13, 04:34 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Markham -- Bayview & Steeles
Posts: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by HydrogenCyanide
About to move to Ridgeway/Fort Erie about half a block from Lake Erie. I would imagine that Buffalo will not be a problem to pull in OTA. What do you guys think abou anything coming from Toronto.

Buffalo will be almost straight west of me while Toronto would be directly North. What antennae would you guys recommend? I would like to have it go into my attic.
Your OTA from Buffalo will be good. Toronto may be a problem. You'll have to aim about 330 degrees. The antenna pattern from the CN Tower goes primarily in a wide lobe towards the North, so you may have difficulty getting the Toronto channels. I know a person in Lockport, N.Y. that uses a large parabolic on a tower to get Toronto.

You would need a good antenna and preferably not mounted in your attic.
intrac is offline  
post #36 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-07-13, 06:10 PM
OTA Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,878
Quote:
Originally Posted by HydrogenCyanide
About to move to Ridgeway/Fort Erie about half a block from Lake Erie. I would imagine that Buffalo will not be a problem to pull in OTA. What do you guys think abou anything coming from Toronto.
Have you checked the other Niagara results in this thread? We've had posts from Port Colborne, Fonthill, Thorold, St. Kitts, so it will be good to see how Fort Erie results turn out.



stampeder is offline  
post #37 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-16, 03:45 AM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thorold Ontario
Posts: 2,322
Antenna mast installation in Thorold, ON

I have previously documented DT reception results from here using an attic antenna. Well, I'm about to embark on building an outdoor antenna system. I have recently purchased the Channel Master 4228 antenna and 9521A rotator kit from the US and now comes the job of selecting a competent installer.
I want him to put up a tower unit behind my bi-level semi (basement has full windows). The area is reasonably free of large trees, the closest being at the front of the house and at least three backyards away. Asthetically, I don't want a monster tower, but the goal is to get a steady signal from Toronto, CBC-DT & CFTO-DT which are tentative with a stationary attic antenna.
I would appreciate comments on tower installations, height suggestions ( I realize every location has its own requirements), and any other help so that when I approach an installer, I don't look too much like a dummy. Some of the links posted on this forum have already proved invaluable in understanding various problems, i.e. roof installs, tree problems, line of sight, antenna selection, etc. Thank you DHCer's.

Last edited by jbracing24; 2005-08-16 at 05:52 AM.
jbracing24 is offline  
post #38 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-16, 08:54 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 529
jbracing24,

Goto Nutech electronics in St. Catharines on Nielson and buy a 30 foot tower. It comes in 3 sections and I beleive is $33 per section.

While there, ask him about installers. If all else fails install it yourself; no biggy really just either bury a few feet of the tower in the ground with a couple bags of cement or buy the triangle mounting plate and bury it.

Crispy
Crispy is offline  
post #39 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-16, 03:05 PM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thorold Ontario
Posts: 2,322
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispy
jbracing24,
Goto Nutech electronics in St. Catharines on Nielson and buy a 30 foot tower. It comes in 3 sections and I beleive is $33 per section.
Crispy
That's a start. Thanks.
jbracing24 is offline  
post #40 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-16, 07:10 PM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,152
Crispy you're not that far from Thorold.... maybe go help this guy out with the tower... sounds like you know what your doing
HDTV101 is offline  
post #41 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-22, 04:07 AM
OTA Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,878
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crispy
just either bury a few feet of the tower in the ground with a couple bags of cement or buy the triangle mounting plate and bury it.
The added benefit is that the lower you can go into the earth, the better the grounding protection against lightning strikes. Also if the tower is to be self-supporting (no guy wires) most of the literature I've seen talks about putting the base into a cubic yard (3x3x3 foot) pit for a 20 footer, with another cubic yard of concrete for every 20 feet of height, so that's pretty close to your suggestion. If you can rig guy wires to the mast instead, that will prevent having to dig such a big pit. When in doubt, ask the Nutech folks or check out a local HAM radio club to see what experiences those folks have with their heavy rigs.

I was looking at a 60 foot self supporting tower for my house amid the huge trees here and the literature called for AT LEAST 3 cubic yards of concrete, so I would have had to actually buy more than 60 feet of tower to include what needed to be below ground/concrete.



stampeder is offline  
post #42 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-22, 08:36 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 529
Stampeder,

Most also put the tower next to their house so they can also attach it to their soffit.

Crispy
Crispy is offline  
post #43 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-22, 11:30 AM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thorold Ontario
Posts: 2,322
Update:
I have located an installer this morning who will provide the tower, mast and house brackets etc and install on Friday morning.
I purchased the CM4228 and the 9521A rotator with cable from Solid Signal online and had them shipped to a relative south of Buffalo. The shipping wasn't cheap (gas prices?) so, the parts cost me $195 CND including shipping, on my Visa.
The installer wants $450 plus tax, about what I expected. Crispy, thanks, but relax man, I won't ask for your help...this time!
jbracing24 is offline  
post #44 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-22, 02:10 PM
OTA Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 24,878
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbracing24
Update:
I have located an installer this morning who will provide the tower, mast and house brackets etc and install on Friday morning.
Any chance we could see some photos of the whole process?



stampeder is offline  
post #45 of 1893 (permalink) Old 2005-08-22, 08:25 PM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Thorold Ontario
Posts: 2,322
I will try Stampeder.
Now, a question about splitters and signal loss. I have read the threads from Yaamon about this subject. I did read your comments in "Can I split from a CM 4228?" in one of the threads.
My present attic antennas mostly feed analogue to three TV's, split 3 ways in the middle of the house and resplit for VCR's, run through satellite receivers and the whole bit. To compensate, I have a 20db line amp just before the first splitter, otherwise there is nothing on the TV's. So all these splitters eat up 3db each time? Plus the roof db loss...wow, wonder how I get a DT signal with all that going on.
With a dedicated tower for DT, I was wondering about running the line from the antenna to the middle of the house only, add a joiner to another cable to the HT room. That way, when I replace the TV upstairs with one with an ATSC tuner, I can add a splitter to feed it. Since that may be a while away, will a joiner add much signal loss? Should I keep it one run all the way? . Is the DT signal that sensitive?
jbracing24 is offline  
Reply

Tags
antenna , hdtv

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome