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post #1 of 223 (permalink) Old 2006-07-26, 12:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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For the past five years I have tested three Channel Master antennas for HDTV reception. I'm using a 50' steel tower with a 7775 Channel Master preamp, a 9521a channel master rotor and RG-11 downlead [to reduce line loss].

The first antenna was a 4248 channel master antenna and I was able to pick-up all Rochester NY channels, Buffalo channels recieved were channels 2,4,29,43 none from Syracuse.

I then installed a 4228 channel master and recieve channels 68 and 24 from Syracuse and intermitently channels 3,5,9.

My neighbor then gave me a new Channel Master 4250 which I gave a try signal strength was the same as the 4228 the only differance is that the 4250 was extremely directional and I thought that would help me recieve channel 5 out of Toronto because the physical channel for CBLT 5 is channel 20 and in Rochester the PBS analog channel is channel 21 I am experinceing co-channel interferance. The 4250 did not correct the problem so I took it down and put back the 4228. This is an experiment in progress, some channels are low power, some experiance co-channel interferance.

I always scan for digital channels between 6:00am-8:00am I have recieved digital channels as far away as Watertown NY. I used to recieve analog channel 27 Global from the CN tower but since Fox network in Rochester started broadcasting digitally on channel 28 it has destroyed channel 27.

I am no longer able to recieve any Canadian Broadcasts and its a shame because I always respect other peoples or Countys points of veiw, especially politics. I look forward to being able to recieve Free canadian broadcasts in the future.

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at that distance and in that direction, you may have reduced signal for CBLT & CBLFT. They've been on half antenna for about a month now due to maintenance at the CN Tower.
Most of the GTA will not notice a difference, but coverage pattern changes slightly on half antenna.

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The Global Ch-27 transmitter is out of Peterborough Ont. not the CN Tower.
The Toronto Global station broadcasts on ch-41 from the CN Tower.
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I'm looking for advice on which antenna to get. I live fairly close to most/all Buffalo transmitters in North Tonawanda now that WNYO is on GI so I can get those fairly reliably with a simple indoor RS Bowtie ($4)- not bad! My question is -If I want to get Toronto stations OTA should I go w/ The CM 4228/ or Antennas direct- DB4- I know the CM is a 8bay and the AD is only a 4 bowtie. The antennas direct DB8 range is supposedly 55 miles. According to the Remote Central website I'm roughly 50 miles from the CN Tower in TO. Should I go w/ the Antennas Direct model and hope I can receive the TO stations or go w/ the CM 4228 to be safe?

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Jimdoo go with biggest antenna as the Toronto stations are quite weak.4228

Attic CM 4248 at Buffalo,M4 at Buffalo.VHF yagis at Toronto .
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jimdoo one of the important factors that will determine your Toronto reception is the path between where your antenna will go, and the CN Tower.

Are there nearby trees or buildings that would block a signal coming from the CN tower?

if there is a long field on the northwest side of your house towards Toronto and your antenna points straight across that field, its going to be much easier pulling in TO stations than if theres a forest 20 feet from your house. If you have obstacles that are close to your house, your only hope is getting a preamped CM4228 as high up as possible, and then hoping for CBC, and maybe a glimpse of CTV.

do you have any pictures by chance of what beside your house in the direction of Toronto?
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jimdoo, click on the links in my signature to get to the downloadable PDF chart of antennas. You will find your answers in there. Also check the Niagara Peninsula thread because your results will likely be very similar to theirs.



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I'm 30 miles west of Rochester, and receive Toronto 20 the best. I lost 40 CFTO by moving 4 miles east, and get analog 40 Rochester instead. I believe 27 Global is actually transmitted from around Peterborough; 41 Global must be in or near Toronto.
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at that distance and in that direction, you may have reduced signal for CBLT & CBLFT. They've been on half antenna for about a month now due to maintenance at the CN Tower.
Most of the GTA will not notice a difference, but coverage pattern changes slightly on half antenna.
is CBC still not transmitting at full capacity at this moment? and were you talking aboutt the digital signal or the analog signal or both?
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is CBC still not transmitting at full capacity at this moment? and were you talking aboutt the digital signal or the analog signal or both?
I was talking about CBLT & CBLFT digital, and yes they are still on half antenna. Maybe about 3 more weeks.

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Eddie Wlosinski; It would be helpful if you stated your location. It appaers you are in the Rochester area. You mention what you receive, but no one knows where you are.
Also using those analog VHF channel numbers is sort of useless since we are talking about UHF allocations. I reconize some of the old analog numbers, but have no idea what the actual digital number is w/o looking it up first.

First time I have seen anyone mention using RG-11 for a downlead. Must be really serious about DXing.

BTW, welcome to the forums.
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I was talking about CBLT & CBLFT digital, and yes they are still on half antenna. Maybe about 3 more weeks.
hmm thats interesting, how long has in been like that? Maybe thats why I no longer get a weaker CBC when my antenna is aimed at Buffalo.

if i aim at Toronto, seems no different, same with SRC, but CBC used to come at about 40% when I aimed my antenna at Buffalo.
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jimdoo, click on the links in my signature to get to the downloadable PDF chart of antennas. You will find your answers in there. Also check the Niagara Peninsula thread because your results will likely be very similar to theirs.
Thanks for your help and 026163 also - I ended up going w/ the CM 4228 and am glad I did -overall I'm happy I do get CBC at about 40% signal w/ this antenna on my roof pointing North thru a tree in my backyard. I will see what happens when the leaves fall and hope for CTV also! If this doesnt pan out I will plan on turning the antenna southward to get the Buffalo locals more reliably than w/ my indoor antenna I'm using now. Thanks again for your help!
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Canadian OTA in Bufffalo

Hey guys, great board, I have been searching around for about 30 mins and I cant see anyone talking about Buffalo people receiving canada stuff. I realize this is a Canadian site, but does anyone know if people in Buffalo can recieve say...CTVHD?

From what I read the signal is coming from toronto on the CN tower?

Any help would be awesome, Just got a new HDTV with a built in tuner.
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Short answer is yes, CFTO, CBLT, CBLFT all in DTV should be easy to get from CN Tower.
CITY is low power directional, so really hard to get in Buffalo and CKXT (SUN) is really low power.
CFMT & CJMT should be up soon, from First Canadian Place. They were on but i suspect they had to shut down for testing the new transmitters & Combiner.

Good Luck!!

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