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post #46 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-16, 12:24 PM
 
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Thumbs down Not USB 3

That is a disappointment.

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It's USB 2.0. I asked if there was a max size for the USB drive and they told me USB 2.0
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post #47 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-16, 02:10 PM
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It's USB 2.0. I asked if there was a max size for the USB drive and they told me USB 2.0

Not the answer to the question I asked but it was useful info
So how can you rely on the answer when they do not know what they are talking about, obviously.
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post #48 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-16, 08:14 PM
 
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The fact that he didn't answer the question does not mean he didn't know what he was talking about. What it shows is that he didn't listen to what was actually being asked or maybe even that he did not know the answer to that question so he answered with something that he did know.
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post #49 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-16, 09:13 PM
 
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I just assumed they were looking at the spec sheet and saw "USB 2.0", and said that. Could be wrong though. It would be nice if it was USB 3.0, but the new receivers certainly don't appear to be running the latest tech (the hard drive is only 1TB after all).
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post #50 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-16, 09:17 PM
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Isn't a 1 TB hard drive pretty standard in a PVR? Keep in mind that once they switch all the HD channels from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4, each program will take half the space.
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post #51 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-17, 12:15 PM
 
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My external enclosure does have a USB (2.0 I think) so that would be good news.
Isnt USB2 fast enough to transfer mp4 data between the external drive and internal?

I am curious to see what kind of interface its going to have, hopefully its not the same as the 630.
I also hope they have a better disk management than to just delete shows by date.
It should delete watched shows first by date and then the rest imo.
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post #52 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-17, 12:25 PM
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My experience with using USB 2.0 drives on other PVRs is that transfer is tedious and playback can be flawed. But at least they work. I've tried USB 3.0 external drives and none of them worked well. Most never worked at anything close to USB 3.0 speeds. Others just didn't work on USB 3.0 ports. That amounts to a total fail when they require a USB 3.0 port for power. (No external power connection.)
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post #53 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-24, 01:47 PM
 
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I really hope this new receiver has a much better software.
I like the 630 but the software bugs and crashes drive me nuts.
Today while taping a soccer game the machine crashed 4 times.
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post #54 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-24, 07:18 PM
 
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I'm going to hold out on judgement until I've seen and read about the receiver, but if there's little change to what we have I will be disappointed (though not surprised). The wi-fi will be useful for me though, especially if it also covers on-demand.

I have to say, the 630 and 600 have (touch wood) been very very stable and reliable for me. Not sure if that's the exception rather than the rule but I've had very few complaints and I haven't ever had a unit change in the five years we've had them.

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post #55 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-24, 08:36 PM
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I got rid of my two 630s about 3 years ago. Even then they were quite stable an reliable, especially when compared to the cable boxes that replaced them. The main issue with the 630s were lack of "whole home" PVR capability and, though not a 630 issue, the dismal record of Shaw Direct with adding HD channels, especially those from Eastern Canada. The new receivers don't address the whole home PVR issue so I don't see a return to Shaw Direct anytime soon.
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post #56 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-25, 12:04 PM
 
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Thumbs up 630 is OK with me

I've had several 630's, but the last one (refurb under warranty) is still ticking like a Timex. I think the 630 is a fine PVR, but the hard drive at 320 Gb is too small. Lately there hasn't been much to record per my tastes so occupancy is only 32% or less.

I hope the new season brings shows that will cause me to again wish for a 1TB HD. Problems with these machines mostly seem to be Hard Drive related. I wish that Shaw Direct will have a large, economical, and reliable solid state drive for the new machines.

I suggest OlStatic that you contact Shaw Direct and get a new (refurbished) 630 under warranty if possible.

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I put 1TB drives in both the 630s. It was a nice improvement.
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post #58 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-26, 12:35 PM
 
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I think the issues with the 630 is due to poor disk management.
I have also an external drive.
I rarely delete anything so the the drives are full.
I leave it to the receiver to delete the old stuff and manage it and I think thats where the problems lie.
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post #59 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-26, 08:11 PM
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I find that external drives tend to reduce reliability, especially on units like the 630 that treat it as a live drive instead of as archival storage.

Letting the drives fill up is one of the worse things you can do to any PVR (or hard disk in general.) The rule of thumb is to keep at least 10% free at all times. Some operating systems and PVRs do that automatically. (Rogers PVRs start deleting programming at 90%.) PVR performance and reliability will sometimes noticeably decrease when the disk gets over 75% full. I find that 75% or lower disk use is a beneficial target.
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post #60 of 251 (permalink) Old 2017-06-27, 12:41 PM
 
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That should be the job of the receiver to keep enough space to be work properly.
If ideally it should stay below 75% then program it that way.
I dont want to micromanage it.

All I want to do is to set new records (either recurring or one time) and watch the recorded shows. Simple as that.
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