Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Eastern Ontario (Ottawa/Kingston)
Thanks very much for the advice and warnings re: The recent Shaw Direct flyer in Kingston (looks good but not sure ...)
Ya - cause what they do, is start to whittle down the content (bait & switch), or increase the rate, with this excuse or that excuse (ususally increases for "network improvements - for your own improved viewing")
I looked back at an analysis I did of a similar COGECO Cable "switch to digital" offer / flyer from back one year ago - just before COGECO started their Kingston digital migration (shut down of some analog channels, and convert to digital).
[ We had a "grandfathered" ANALOG only package from way back. We ended up waiting them out - took NO offer to convert to digital - and just waited - and then we finally got / they were forced to give us: two digital ADAPTORS from them, for free, no monthly rental fee - but the content available via digital ADAPTOR sucks - has been reduced to "nothing of much interest" - usually - reality and idiot TV usually most of the time ]
The Devil was certainly in the details there, with Cogeco cable - specifically for Kingston.
The COGECO cable flyer showed *ALL* the channel images on their flyer - but when I went to ask them in person, to confirm, at the cust service location / office, it turned out that for KINGSTON specifically- you could not get this channel or that channel shown on the flyer, unless you also got another channel FIRST, and that required signing up for another package, which essentially increased the price by about 15 dollars per month.
Then, some channels - you HAD to get an HD box to get them. Even if there was an SD version of the channel available - TOO BAD - must get the HD box to get those channels. And ofcourse, the HD box costs more, has a higher rental fee, and therefore increases your monthly cable rate - signifigantly - and even more so when TAXES are taken into account.
There are all sorts of small print in that historical Cogeco flyer as well.
To the effect that:
"We reserve the right to change channels any way we wish"
"We reserve the right to increase fees any way we wish"
"Not all channels are available in all places"
"Channels available/offered - may vary by location"
"Maple Leafs hockey games are not guaranteed"
[Side comment: Well crap, what's the problem COGECO? If local CBC broadcast over the air, received by antenna - usually shows the LEAFS hockey game, Saturday? don't they? So why is COGECO putting in this disclaimer? Probably just to cover their corporate BUTT . Maybe not *ALL* Leafs games are guaranteed.
I'm talking about: CKWS 11 - Kingston (and + various re-transmitters, Brighton (Brighton already Digital OTA HD), Prescott, & Smiths Falls - still analog) / CORUS / Independent CBC affiliate(s). Who have already announced, theoretically that they will soon be switching the "MAIN" Kingston CKWS 11 to digital OTA digitial ATSC broadcasting soon? And maybe in HD as well, later on, by next Hockey Season? Maybe? We hope? ]
But the SHAW flyer seems to suggest they will offer stuff (channels and content) that COGECO cable simply does not.
TCM, OMNIs, some radio station content.
It seems Kingston AREA is getting the SHAFT - from COGECO cable.
Ex. BEEN TOLD:
"No Omni 1 or 2 SD in Kingston"
"Must take the HD package in order to get them.
SO YES, like in the Cellular Telephone world - I guess one must be very LEERY of entering into long contracts - like 3 year contracts.
So ya, thanks, Good advice - the technology (receivers) could change quickly, even in a year, and you might be stuck with something obsolete for a long time, or dinged with a big penalty to get out of the 3 year contract.
Seems some have been having trouble with malfunctioning receivers too ... and the attempt and wait to get fixed.
Or good new content (channels) might become available - but you don't get them, except at a high price - because you signed a long term contract - and are stuck with the original "deal" "package" - unless you anty up more monthly money.
Or existing content could become so bad or watered down - you just don't want it anymore (ex. like A&E, History channel, or other similar specialty channels - simply just start showing irrelevent content, or infomercials - alot.) (bait & switch, with time).
Does SHAW Direct see something coming down the pipe? [Other service from maybe BELL?] That concerns them / scares them? To try and give incentives to gain new customers *NOW!* / quickly, into longer term contracts? Before that hits?
Maybe we need to re-evaluate COGECO cable again first.
Or see if COGECO cable just needs a little more time - to get things happening.
Or see if COGECO cable might have something to offer us themselves. As a counter offer.
But what I know about COGECO - having tried to work with them - MAN ... they are about as thick as a block wall.
Maybe just time to wait some more, and see how things develop.
And - as advised above - be VERY VERY Leary of entering into ANY L O N G term contract.
1 year contracts MAXIMUM . Maybe. Even if you gotta BUY the darn receiver yourself.