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post #91 of 248 (permalink) Old 2012-11-28, 12:09 PM
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As I stated earlier, any HDD can do double recordings (and watching a pre-recorded programme). I encourage others to check on GaryE's statement about the "inactivity" of the iHDD. That would seem like a waste to have it sit there only handling minor things like the IPG and index. It's not how Rogers' PVRs with eHDD work, however, it's certainly possible that Shaw Direct works this way.

Perhaps Gary's HDD free space/size indicator is not working properly? One can usually tell when a HDD is active by listening... A test would be to do two long HD recordings, listen for activity of the iHDD and check the HDD space after a long recording.

Also, remember that if there is space used on the iHDD for previous recordings, then recordings will go to the eHDD until it is as full (percentage-wise) as the iHDD. Here's the link from post 1 of this thread to the SD website stating same...

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post #92 of 248 (permalink) Old 2012-11-28, 12:18 PM
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As I have mentioned before, the same day after receiving the 8.26 update I did a factory reset to get any bugs out and I think that is why I am having NO problems with my 630 and/or eHDD. Seems to be working perfectly. Had a spontaneous reboot a couple of weeks ago but that has basicly been it for any problems.

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So far so good.
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is your WD Green drive still working well with your 630? Contemplating using a WD Green 2TB drive and a vantec case with my 630.

Being green hasn't been an issue?

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The WD Green drives are as fast as some standard drives so speed should not be an issue. The WD Red drives should be a better fit but their reliability has not yet been proven. Since the Red drives appear to Green drives with some tweaking for media use and a longer warranty, they should be OK.
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The WD Green drives are as fast as some standard drives so speed should not be an issue.
I was under the impression that some `Green`drives spin down after an idle period and that might be an issue in a PVR setting.... although it may not be the case with a dual tuner PVR, as I guess it should always be buffering....

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My iHHD never gets used. It always sits at 238G. Size:238G, 238G free. It's my eHHD that is doing all the recording including the double recordings.
How can you tell how much space each drive has?
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Options-4-9-7-7-1. Then press the left arrow button until you get to "Diagnostic R". Will give you how much space is left on each drive, the health of each drive and also the serial numbers for each drive.

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Options-4-9-7-7-1. Then press the left arrow button until you get to "Diagnostic R". Will give you how much space is left on each drive, the health of each drive and also the serial numbers for each drive.

Thanks for the info. My iHD shows 238gb avail & 238 gb free. So all my recordings are on the eHD, including dual recordings.
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...some `Green`drives spin down after an idle period...
As will most drives, when configured to do so. The default for current WD drives is not to spin down unless signalled to do so. That can be changed with drive configuration software. WD had one model a couple of years ago that was permanently configured to spin down on idle but it's no longer made. As long as the controlling device can handle a delay on wake up, spin down on idle is not an issue. I have a PC and a small NAS that are just fine with it. There is a delay on access but no errors are generated. PVRs are another issue. As we all know, the programming quality for PVRs does not match that for most other devices.
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Thanks for the info. My iHD shows 238gb avail & 238 gb free. So all my recordings are on the eHD, including dual recordings.
Very odd. What happens to the iHDD space when you temporarily remove the eHDD? Does the space go down when you do a recording? What happens to that recording and space when you reconnect the eHDD?

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If the 630 equalizes use of disk space, it makes sense that new recordings go to a newly attached external drive. When drive space is equalized, new recordings could then go to either drive, depending on disk space use at the moment.

I'm just wondering what, if any provision is available for decommissioning the EHD. Can recordings be always sent to the IHD so that the EHD can be watched and cleared?
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Very odd. What happens to the iHDD space when you temporarily remove the eHDD? Does the space go down when you do a recording? What happens to that recording and space when you reconnect the eHDD?
I don't know. @ this time I don't want to disconnect my eHD, just in case I loose all my recordings. I know that should not happen, but this is the 630 we are talking about here...lol What I do know is that all the recording that were on the iHD prior to me hooking up the eHD have now been viewed & delated.
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When I first hooked up my eHDD I still had some recordings left on the iHDD. New shows that were recorded after installing the eHDD then went onto the new drive. Nothing else was recorded on the iHDD. One weekend I got to the point where I had watched everything and deleted everything so the iHDD went to 238G free and the eHDD went to 912G free (1TB drive). The eHDD is the one that is doing all the recording and at the moment it's at 851G free. The iHDD still sits at 238G free.

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I'm just wondering what, if any provision is available for decommissioning the EHD. Can recordings be always sent to the IHD so that the EHD can be watched and cleared?
I doubt it. The 630 treats both drives as one, plus I have not seen any utilities on the 630 for this purpose. Also don't you just disconnect the eSata cable when you are removing/decommissioning the eHD. Not exactly a high tech way to decommission. On a different note if peeps are going to disconnect/reconnect their eHD remember that they are not hot swappable.
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jccamp95,

is your WD Green drive still working well with your 630? Contemplating using a WD Green 2TB drive and a vantec case with my 630.

Being green hasn't been an issue?

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