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post #121 of 826 (permalink) Old 2011-08-27, 05:05 PM
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Signal Strength

My signal strength keeps changing. It is a clear and sunny day here in Victoria. My T1 signal today has ranged from 3.3 to 7.7 My T-2 signal ranges from 3.3 to 7.9.
Any ideas? We just got a new HDPVR 630. Thanks.
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My signal strength keeps changing. It is a clear and sunny day here in Victoria. My T1 signal today has ranged from 3.3 to 7.7 My T-2 signal ranges from 3.3 to 7.9.
Any ideas? We just got a new HDPVR 630. Thanks.
check the connections from your LNB to coax
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post #123 of 826 (permalink) Old 2011-08-29, 08:21 AM
 
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Losing F1 at night

For the last few nights I've been losing several channels on F1, Numbers during the day are 80 % with 5 ECB which is quite good for the arctic. Then at night for the past few nights, I get 0's across the board on several channels. Then this morning I try the same channels that I lost ( NHL Net, certain CBC's) and the are back up to 5 ECB....Yesterday I tried re aligning, and I am peaked. Could Solar transit be the cause?
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Solar transit, not this time of year. March and October is when it happens.
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post #125 of 826 (permalink) Old 2011-08-29, 11:14 AM
 
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danny: what type of connectors did you use: compression, crimp, or screw on? without any physical obstructions and proper alignment, another common cause could be fulty connectors. Compression is definitely the way to go.
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Depending on where you live its cooler at night now. Could there be dew/moisture that is getting into a connection.

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im at the north pole almost, cold yes, but dry as he!!
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post #128 of 826 (permalink) Old 2011-09-05, 08:12 PM
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284=96%...299=nothin'!

Hey all,

I'm at my witts end with this. I've been working on it for 2 days now.

I have a HDDSR-600. My dish is a shaw dish with a Quad LNB.

Rigt now I have it mounted on my deck about 6ft off the ground. It's now taking the place of my Bell dish which was in the exact same location.

I have a direct RG6 line from the lnb to the reciever. No switches or couplers.

If I have the reciever set to channel 284 I can get 96% signal.

Now if I change the channel to 299 and try to tune it in I get nothing at all. And I mean nothing on the signal meter. Tried adjusting everything. Nothing makes a difference.

If I go to the SYSTEM STATUS page and look at the Signal for Tuner 1...The best I can get it is about 65. I turn back to the signal meter and theres nothing.

Can anyone lend some advise?

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post #129 of 826 (permalink) Old 2011-09-05, 08:33 PM
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Sounds like you are aiming at the wrong satellite. If I'm not mistaken 284 is an HD channel on F2 and you want to be aiming towards F1 (299) when setting the dish up. F2 should fall in place if you have the skews and angles right.

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Ya I totally agree. Problem is I can get 284 no problem. Took like 3 minutes, but getting 299 has been impossible. Adjusted everything. Even checked both my neighbours dishes and both are the same as mine. I plumbed and leveled the J-arm in all directions and still nothing. Not even getting a blip of signal.

Im in the belleville area. So I'm 236/29/120.

2 days worth of aiming. Not a happy camper
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Is 299 the only channel you don't get? If you are also not able to get a selection of other channels that would prove/disprove if it is aiming.

Can you borrow a neighbors box for a few minutes to test your aiming and connections? This would also help to prove or disprove receiver or installation.

In every satellite installation I have done myself, at two different sites, with SD and FTA hardware, using multiple different shapes and sizes of dishes - my initial setup issues have always come down to aiming, mast plumb, or cable/connectors.
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post #132 of 826 (permalink) Old 2011-09-05, 11:04 PM
 
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maybe try a different channel?

i have used 354 (knowledge BC) to aim F1 both times I set up my systems

i also agree with envirogeek re: use a neighbor's box
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No. When I align useing channel 284 I get about 20 channels.
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Are these 20 channels mostly HD? If so then my original post stands... you are aimed at the wrong satellite.

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Cool Just like Paint by Numbers...

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No. When I align useing channel 284 I get about 20 channels.
Marrow,

IMHO you are totally dialed into F2 and missed FR1. Take your dish off the mast and ensure #3 below is true.

Here's my method to setup a Shaw Direct Dish. It's really just like paint by numbers.

Setting up /Tuning a Dish should take less than an hour if you've got good gear, a clear line of sight to the Birds, and:

1 : Got reasonable access to the Dish for adjusting / tighening
2: You've got a reciever and TV close by for tuning - with power
3: Your mast is vertical in both planes (plumb) and solidly mounted


According to Dishpointer your settings in Belleville, Ontario are:
Elevation: 31.0°
Azimuth (true): 219.6°
Azimuth (magn.): 231.7°
LNB Skew : 27.2° CW


According to Shaw's Manual its'
Elevation: 31.0°
Azimuth (magn.): 232°
Skew : 117°

Then set your Elevation to 31.0° and Skew @ 90° (to start).(Tighten them down.) Mount the Dish onto the mast but don't clamp it too tight. (You want to be able to easily rotate it on the mast.) Connect your cables & turn on the TV and set the Reciever to 299. Take a compass reading and aim the dish 20° east of what you think is the right direction. Turn the Reciever onto channel 299 and put it onto the signal strength meter in Options.

Then pan westward in 2° increments stopping for 15 seconds between adjustments to let the Reciever advise if you are seeing the Bird. If you get 20 degrees past where you thought the Bird was then adjust the elevation up 1° and pan eastward using the same methodolgy above. If you get 20 degrees past where you thought the Bird was then adjust the elevation down 2 degrees, and pan westward using the same methodolgy above.

If you've got good gear (cables, connectors, LNB, Dish, TV and the Reciever) and you've followed the above (paying particular attention to the mast and skew at 90° initially) you cannot fail to find F1R. Once F1R is found then try to find the sweet spot be moving 1/2° increments in one direction until the signal strength no longer is gaining but is starting to drop off. Then go the other way until you find the maximum signal obtainable with the present elevation and skew @ 90°. Then lock the dish down for Azimuth.

Then Tune the Receiver to Channel 700 (which is on F2) and I'll bet you'll have a decent signal. If not, now you can adjust the Skew to max out the signal. Again do it in 1° increments allowing 15 seconds between adjustments to let the Reciever advise if you are seeing the Bird, and what signal strength it's giving you. Once F2 is found then try to find the sweet spot be moving 1/2° increments in one direction until the signal strength no longer is gaining but is starting to drop off. Then go the other way until you find the maximum signal obtainable.

Now you switch back to channel 299 and see what impact your Skew adjustments did. The rest is just fine tuning and compromises so both Birds are strong.

In BC the weakest channels seem to be Channel 264 Classic Channel Lineup (319 Advanced Channel Lineup) and Channel 260 Classic Channel Lineup (312 Advanced Channel Lineup). Once you've got both Birds strong you can try to find out which transponders are poorest for you and use those to tweak your dish. By then you'll be into Ecb/no values for tuning like I am here:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show...125300&page=12
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