Rochester, Detroit & Buffalo Channels? - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

MCIBUS · 2009-01-05, 07:48 PM

I remember some time ago we used to get Rochester here in Ottawa before we switched to Detroit.

CBS- WHEC Rochester
NBC- WROC Rochester
ABC- WWOR Rochester
PBS- Watertown
FOX- Buffalo

Now I know these where switched to Detroit due to the way we had gotten Rochester, something about the US carrier that Rogers got the signal from. I'm not to sure on the exact story though.

But I seem to recall a city near the GTA, Port Hope comes to mind but I could be mistaken, anywho it was a city close to the GTA they use to also get Rochester for its US nets (not sure where they got FOX & PBS from though), but is this city still getting Rochester? And if so why didn't Rogers just do what this other city is doing (thats assuming there still getting Rochester)?

Now grant you I'm not sure how Rogers is getting the Detroit & Buffalo signals (I don't think its sat, could be mistaken though) but I do know there fibered up from Toronto to Ottawa.

As to why we're (Ottawa) getting Detroit instead of Buffalo, I'm not sure why (I'm assuming or guess getting Buffalo would be just as easy as Detroit if it fibered up to Ottawa from Toronto)?

Anyways does anyone know of this place (near the GTA), if there still getting Rochester or not?

Thanks.

TOM

whitbyterry · 2009-01-06, 09:37 AM

Rogers was carrying the Rochester stations in the Oshawa/Whitby area for years but they just dropped them in the last year. The signal quality was not great so I would guess they were pulling them in with their large antennas rather than through a satellite feed.

I think that Detroit is the preferred stations for most of Canada because they are on satellite and are a larger US market than Buffalo is.

kirjtc2 · 2009-01-06, 10:21 AM

My understanding is that the Rochester signals were microwaved up to Ottawa, while all those cities on the lake got them OTA.

Cogeco in Belleville (which gets all Rochester stations now) is apparently going to switch its PBS feed to Buffalo once the DTV switchover happens, because the WXXI-DT signal is too weak to cross the lake.

bigoranget · 2009-01-08, 08:42 PM

My guess is Cogeco will drop ALL of the Rochester stations in favor of Buffalo or Detroit come the digital switch-over in the US.

My guess is Kingston will retain WPBS Watertown but the other affiliates such as FOX, NBC Syracuse and CBS, ABC Watertown will flip to Buffalo or Detroit.

In London, Rogers customers will probably lose ABC and NBC Erie and possibly even WUAB Cleveland.

Cogeco has announced that it will drop all the toledo feeds in the Windsor-Leamington area.

thenewdc · 2009-01-11, 09:39 AM

I agree with what your saying with the exception of WWNY. I'm sure they will continue to broadcast that station on Cogeco.

kirjtc2 · 2009-01-11, 08:38 PM

Rogers NB switched its PBS feed from Maine to Boston this weekend.

I presume this has something to do with the shutdown of Maine Public Television's transmitters near the border to save on costs.

kirjtc2 · 2009-01-12, 11:20 AM

Never mind...MPBN's back today. Weird.

Kloraff · 2009-01-12, 12:42 PM

Well, MPBN shut down all it's analog transmissions yesterday (Jan 11th) so maybe Rogers just switched it for the day to make sure of a smoother transition to the digital one?

kirjtc2 · 2009-01-13, 10:00 AM

Makes sense....forgot they were shutting down analog early. Picture looks (somewhat) better now too.

kirjtc2 · 2009-01-26, 06:50 PM

Cogeco has bitten the bullet and switched around a bunch of US network feeds across Ontario:

http://www.cogeco.ca/en/digital_cabl...ramming_o.html

thenewdc · 2009-01-26, 09:42 PM

Now, whats the real reason they are doing this? Sure, they can no longer recieve reliable reception from these cities using their digital feeds.

2009-01-05, 07:48 PM	#1
MCIBUS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,098	Rochester, Detroit & Buffalo Channels? I remember some time ago we used to get Rochester here in Ottawa before we switched to Detroit. CBS- WHEC Rochester NBC- WROC Rochester ABC- WWOR Rochester PBS- Watertown FOX- Buffalo Now I know these where switched to Detroit due to the way we had gotten Rochester, something about the US carrier that Rogers got the signal from. I'm not to sure on the exact story though. But I seem to recall a city near the GTA, Port Hope comes to mind but I could be mistaken, anywho it was a city close to the GTA they use to also get Rochester for its US nets (not sure where they got FOX & PBS from though), but is this city still getting Rochester? And if so why didn't Rogers just do what this other city is doing (thats assuming there still getting Rochester)? Now grant you I'm not sure how Rogers is getting the Detroit & Buffalo signals (I don't think its sat, could be mistaken though) but I do know there fibered up from Toronto to Ottawa. As to why we're (Ottawa) getting Detroit instead of Buffalo, I'm not sure why (I'm assuming or guess getting Buffalo would be just as easy as Detroit if it fibered up to Ottawa from Toronto)? Anyways does anyone know of this place (near the GTA), if there still getting Rochester or not? Thanks. TOM

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2009-01-06, 09:37 AM	#2
whitbyterry Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Whitby, Ontario (Rogers Cable), LG 42PC3D, 8642HD Posts: 514	Rogers was carrying the Rochester stations in the Oshawa/Whitby area for years but they just dropped them in the last year. The signal quality was not great so I would guess they were pulling them in with their large antennas rather than through a satellite feed. I think that Detroit is the preferred stations for most of Canada because they are on satellite and are a larger US market than Buffalo is.

2009-01-06, 10:21 AM	#3
kirjtc2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 615	My understanding is that the Rochester signals were microwaved up to Ottawa, while all those cities on the lake got them OTA. Cogeco in Belleville (which gets all Rochester stations now) is apparently going to switch its PBS feed to Buffalo once the DTV switchover happens, because the WXXI-DT signal is too weak to cross the lake.

2009-01-08, 08:42 PM	#4
bigoranget Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hamilton Posts: 2,950	My guess is Cogeco will drop ALL of the Rochester stations in favor of Buffalo or Detroit come the digital switch-over in the US. My guess is Kingston will retain WPBS Watertown but the other affiliates such as FOX, NBC Syracuse and CBS, ABC Watertown will flip to Buffalo or Detroit. In London, Rogers customers will probably lose ABC and NBC Erie and possibly even WUAB Cleveland. Cogeco has announced that it will drop all the toledo feeds in the Windsor-Leamington area.

2009-01-11, 09:39 AM	#5
thenewdc Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,310	I agree with what your saying with the exception of WWNY. I'm sure they will continue to broadcast that station on Cogeco.

2009-01-11, 08:38 PM	#6
kirjtc2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 615	Rogers NB switched its PBS feed from Maine to Boston this weekend. I presume this has something to do with the shutdown of Maine Public Television's transmitters near the border to save on costs.

2009-01-12, 11:20 AM	#7
kirjtc2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 615	Never mind...MPBN's back today. Weird.

2009-01-12, 12:42 PM	#8
Kloraff Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Moncton, New Brunswick :: Bell Aliant FibreOP TV Posts: 628	Well, MPBN shut down all it's analog transmissions yesterday (Jan 11th) so maybe Rogers just switched it for the day to make sure of a smoother transition to the digital one?

2009-01-13, 10:00 AM	#9
kirjtc2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 615	Makes sense....forgot they were shutting down analog early. Picture looks (somewhat) better now too.

2009-01-26, 06:50 PM	#10
kirjtc2 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Fredericton, NB Posts: 615	Cogeco has bitten the bullet and switched around a bunch of US network feeds across Ontario: http://www.cogeco.ca/en/digital_cabl...ramming_o.html

2009-01-26, 09:42 PM	#11
thenewdc Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,310	Now, whats the real reason they are doing this? Sure, they can no longer recieve reliable reception from these cities using their digital feeds.