Ruling: Telcos must provide wholesalers must get same speed as retail clients - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

hugh · 2008-12-11, 04:06 PM

In this Decision, the Commission approves in part Cybersurf's application requesting that incumbent local exchange carriers be required to provide speeds for wholesale asymmetric digital subscriber line services that match the speeds made available to their retail Internet service customers. For existing retail service speeds, this requirement will apply only where there is a request from a competitor for such speeds.

Read the decision.

hugh · 2008-12-11, 04:08 PM

The way I read this is that the Telcos must provide wholesale customers such as Cybersurf with the same speeds as they offer their own subscribers.

Is that correct?

i hate tv · 2008-12-11, 04:41 PM

The way I read it is, the telco's must give the same speeds (throttled) to wholesalers as they give their own customers...

Walter Dnes · 2008-12-12, 05:37 PM

I think the reason for the complaint is that until a year or 2 ago, ADSL resellers could offer their customers the same speeds that Bell Sympatico did all the way up to 5 megabits. Recently, however, Bell has been upgrading their ADSL service to 6 megabits, but not offering it to ADSL resellers.

SensualPoet · 2008-12-13, 01:19 PM

And this was an ADSL complaint.

As Bell rolls out VDSL with equipment sitting at the cross-connect boxes at the street corner, or even in the basement of apartment buildings, third party resellers are out of luck, aren't they? Eventually, Bell will have 10 and 16 mbps service in many areas which the resellers can't access as the equipment is "downstream" from the co-location centres that Bell provides.

Regardless of how the rules are imposed, the reseller business has a "best before" date stamped on it unless they want to start building their own networks. At some point, ADSL is going to feel like dial-up; and that's not a business anyone wants to be in these days.

2008-12-11, 04:06 PM	#1
hugh Member #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 47,492	Ruling: Telcos must provide wholesalers must get same speed as retail clients In this Decision, the Commission approves in part Cybersurf's application requesting that incumbent local exchange carriers be required to provide speeds for wholesale asymmetric digital subscriber line services that match the speeds made available to their retail Internet service customers. For existing retail service speeds, this requirement will apply only where there is a request from a competitor for such speeds. Read the decision. __________________ As of January 2012, I am no longer the owner of the Digital Home website. If you have questions about the operation of the site, please contact VSAdmin. For personal inquiries contact me at the Hugh Thompson website.

2008-12-11, 04:08 PM	#2
hugh Member #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 47,492	The way I read this is that the Telcos must provide wholesale customers such as Cybersurf with the same speeds as they offer their own subscribers. Is that correct? __________________ As of January 2012, I am no longer the owner of the Digital Home website. If you have questions about the operation of the site, please contact VSAdmin. For personal inquiries contact me at the Hugh Thompson website.

2008-12-12, 05:37 PM	#4
Walter Dnes Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vaughan, Ontario (near Dufferin and Steeles) Posts: 1,894	I think the reason for the complaint is that until a year or 2 ago, ADSL resellers could offer their customers the same speeds that Bell Sympatico did all the way up to 5 megabits. Recently, however, Bell has been upgrading their ADSL service to 6 megabits, but not offering it to ADSL resellers. __________________ OTA brings you crystal-clear, uncompressed HDTV, no simsubbing, and the real SuperBowl commercials. You can't get all that on satellite... OR CABLE.

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2008-12-11, 04:41 PM	#3
i hate tv Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,317	The way I read it is, the telco's must give the same speeds (throttled) to wholesalers as they give their own customers...

2008-12-13, 01:19 PM	#5
SensualPoet Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Downtown Toronto • Toshiba 52XL177 • HD DVD Toshiba • Rogers HDPVR Cisco 8642 Posts: 2,886	And this was an ADSL complaint. As Bell rolls out VDSL with equipment sitting at the cross-connect boxes at the street corner, or even in the basement of apartment buildings, third party resellers are out of luck, aren't they? Eventually, Bell will have 10 and 16 mbps service in many areas which the resellers can't access as the equipment is "downstream" from the co-location centres that Bell provides. Regardless of how the rules are imposed, the reseller business has a "best before" date stamped on it unless they want to start building their own networks. At some point, ADSL is going to feel like dial-up; and that's not a business anyone wants to be in these days.