Pioneer Elite SC-09TX Direct Energy Amp and AVR Combo - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

mikec · 2008-10-19, 04:48 PM

I did a search for this on the forums, but couldn't find anything... This thing looks sweet!! A bit out of my price range, but I would give anything to put add this to my setup.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cedia07/p...rse-297195.php

elapsed · 2008-10-19, 08:11 PM

Here you go: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...eivers/SC-09TX

In my opinion, it's a bit insane to spend $7K on an AVR, when a number of technologies will be out of date within 1-2 years. Products like this are usually showcases for what is technically possibly, but people in the $5K-$10K market will usually purchase a pre/pro and poweramp, one reason being that they can hold on to the poweramp and upgrade the pre/pro over time.

But speaking of an insane setup, try this on for size.. Denon AVP-A1HDCI pre/pro with a Denon POA-A1HDCI poweramp, stunning!

http://ca.denon.com/ProductDetails/3253.asp
http://ca.denon.com/ProductDetails/3254.asp

cheers,
elapsed

57 · 2008-10-19, 08:53 PM

Sometimes these units can be a deal a year or two after introduction. For example, when I purchased my RX-V1 it was the flagship and list was somewhere approaching $5k in 1999. When I purchased in 2000, it was almost 1/2 price. I did research separates (since I'd been using separates up until that time), but in order to get good separates the price was approaching $10k, so I thought I'd try an AVR instead. Not a bad choice. Still have it and working fine...

elapsed · 2008-10-19, 09:17 PM

Actually prices for home theatre separates are coming down quite nicely, especially with fierce competition down in the States from Outlaw and Emotiva. Today you can purchase a pre/pro and poweramp combination from Marantz or from Integra (Onkyo) for under CA$5,000. Great to see mass-market receiver manufacturers competing in the mid-fi market. It's becoming hard today to justify a $5,000 AVR (though your RX-V1 is exceptional, and the new RX-Z11 retails in this price category).

cheers,
elapsed

mikec · 2008-10-19, 09:20 PM

I guess for super high end seperates seem to be the way to go... But they seem to cost almost double as 57 pointed out. The Pioneer AVR has pretty much all the features the Denon has except the XLR, and not sure how the power ratings compare..

Of course for upgrading seperates are great, but not sure how often I would upgrade after I got that Pioneer.. On the other hand though, the people that are buying that type of receiver have lots of money, and are also the type that probably would upgrade often...

We can only dream I guess.

Tom.F.1 · 2008-10-20, 01:14 PM

I thought those toys were only for Lottery winers?

eljay · 2008-10-20, 01:29 PM

For the price of the SC-09TX, a person could pick up an Emotiva UMC-1 processor and several XPA-series amplifiers!

2008-10-19, 04:48 PM	#1
mikec Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 320	Pioneer Elite SC-09TX Direct Energy Amp and AVR Combo I did a search for this on the forums, but couldn't find anything... This thing looks sweet!! A bit out of my price range, but I would give anything to put add this to my setup. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cedia07/p...rse-297195.php

2008-10-19, 08:53 PM	#3
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,296	Sometimes these units can be a deal a year or two after introduction. For example, when I purchased my RX-V1 it was the flagship and list was somewhere approaching $5k in 1999. When I purchased in 2000, it was almost 1/2 price. I did research separates (since I'd been using separates up until that time), but in order to get good separates the price was approaching $10k, so I thought I'd try an AVR instead. Not a bad choice. Still have it and working fine... __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2008-10-20, 01:14 PM	#6
Tom.F.1 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 1,928	I thought those toys were only for Lottery winers? __________________ Samsung TV, Pio-Elite AVR, OppoBD, Wharfedale Speakers, Kicker Subs. Bell EVu, DB-4e OTA:)

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eljay Premium Supporter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa (Orleans), ON Posts: 8,337	For the price of the SC-09TX, a person could pick up an Emotiva UMC-1 processor and several XPA-series amplifiers! __________________ MY HT SET-UP (PICS & GEAR LIST)

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2008-10-19, 08:11 PM	#2
elapsed Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 714	Here you go: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...eivers/SC-09TX In my opinion, it's a bit insane to spend $7K on an AVR, when a number of technologies will be out of date within 1-2 years. Products like this are usually showcases for what is technically possibly, but people in the $5K-$10K market will usually purchase a pre/pro and poweramp, one reason being that they can hold on to the poweramp and upgrade the pre/pro over time. But speaking of an insane setup, try this on for size.. Denon AVP-A1HDCI pre/pro with a Denon POA-A1HDCI poweramp, stunning! http://ca.denon.com/ProductDetails/3253.asp http://ca.denon.com/ProductDetails/3254.asp cheers, elapsed

2008-10-19, 09:17 PM	#4
elapsed Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 714	Actually prices for home theatre separates are coming down quite nicely, especially with fierce competition down in the States from Outlaw and Emotiva. Today you can purchase a pre/pro and poweramp combination from Marantz or from Integra (Onkyo) for under CA$5,000. Great to see mass-market receiver manufacturers competing in the mid-fi market. It's becoming hard today to justify a $5,000 AVR (though your RX-V1 is exceptional, and the new RX-Z11 retails in this price category). cheers, elapsed

2008-10-19, 09:20 PM	#5
mikec Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 320	I guess for super high end seperates seem to be the way to go... But they seem to cost almost double as 57 pointed out. The Pioneer AVR has pretty much all the features the Denon has except the XLR, and not sure how the power ratings compare.. Of course for upgrading seperates are great, but not sure how often I would upgrade after I got that Pioneer.. On the other hand though, the people that are buying that type of receiver have lots of money, and are also the type that probably would upgrade often... We can only dream I guess.