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Systine · 2002-01-18, 08:16 AM

I just received my new HDTV. I hooked up regular analog cable to the antenna, then connected my digital cable using s-video. When I toggle between the digital and analog signal the analog is much crisper (Global and CNBC are really apparent). Of course I certainly notice a difference when I am actually on one of the digital stations (National Geo, TMN, etc), these look great.

Anyone else see this or is it just me?

JohnnyG · 2002-01-18, 12:04 PM

Try using composite video out from your digital terminal. Your TV has a much better comb filter than the terminal has.

Systine · 2002-01-23, 01:13 PM

Thanks for the advice but unfortunately that didn't workout. I call Rogers, they said the it was a problem with the set top box and would have to fix it. Get this they can't though because they are out of them! Not only are they out of HDTV set top boxes but regular digital ones too! So now I am out of luck until mid next week.

doktersteve · 2002-01-23, 05:46 PM

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On 2002-01-23 13:13, Systine wrote:
Thanks for the advice but unfortunately that didn't workout. I call Rogers, they said the it was a problem with the set top box and would have to fix it. Get this they can't though because they are out of them! Not only are they out of HDTV set top boxes but regular digital ones too! So now I am out of luck until mid next week.

holy cow. sounds like rogers is at least doing a bisk business in the digital/hdtv market...

what boxes do they use for just digital?

Cdn_Photo · 2002-01-23, 05:51 PM

Rogers is using Scientific Atlanta for all their boxes.

For HD, it is the 2000HD.

For normal Digital Cable, they have the 2000 and 3100.

The 3100HD is expected very soon.

doktersteve · 2002-01-23, 06:22 PM

thanks.

another question (i should make another thread, bad me)... what is the menu like on the rogers system?

does it compare to the new BEV menu?

i hate shaw's menu. it is ugly and 8-bit looking (if you know what i mean). shaw is using Motorolla boxes now. i have no idea what the model is... but they are actually proud of thier new system. i think that satellite runs circles around it IMHO.

digitalcable · 2002-01-23, 08:18 PM

I personally consider the Rogers IPG to be the most superior of all the other provders. Its lightning fast and you can browse a week in advance with Picture in Guide. You can also set your colors for the guides appearance. Its a nifty little feature.

travisc · 2002-01-23, 09:28 PM

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On 2002-01-23 18:22, doktersteve wrote:
thanks.

another question (i should make another thread, bad me)... what is the menu like on the rogers system?

does it compare to the new BEV menu?

i hate shaw's menu. it is ugly and 8-bit looking (if you know what i mean). shaw is using Motorolla boxes now. i have no idea what the model is... but they are actually proud of thier new system. i think that satellite runs circles around it IMHO.

Yes, the Rogers IPG is better than what you'll find elsewhere. I'm on Rogers at home and the cablesystem I work for uses Motorola boxes, and I find the S-A box to be a superior product.

JohnnyG · 2002-01-24, 12:00 PM

My biggest pet peeve about the EPG on Rogers is that it takes a month to scroll the guide from 282 to 3! On Star Choice, when the EPG is on-screen, you can key in a channel number and the guide will reposition itself to begin at that point - makes perfect sense! With Rogers, doing the same thing will change channels - makes no sense!

yumov · 2002-01-24, 12:21 PM

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My biggest pet peeve about the EPG on Rogers is that it takes a month to scroll the guide from 282 to 3! On Star Choice, when the EPG is on-screen, you can key in a channel number and the guide will reposition itself to begin at that point - makes perfect sense! With Rogers, doing the same thing will change channels - makes no sense!

Videotron has same S-A boxes as Rogers but the IPG works as IPG on Star Choice

travisc · 2002-01-24, 01:18 PM

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On 2002-01-24 12:00, JohnnyG wrote:
My biggest pet peeve about the EPG on Rogers is that it takes a month to scroll the guide from 282 to 3! On Star Choice, when the EPG is on-screen, you can key in a channel number and the guide will reposition itself to begin at that point - makes perfect sense! With Rogers, doing the same thing will change channels - makes no sense!

Just use the page up/down button... Hold it down. Should get you there soon enough.

digitalcable · 2002-01-24, 05:19 PM

The way the guide works is just a function of software. Maybe another version of software in the future will allow you to jump ahead in the guide without the channel changing with it.

JohnnyG · 2002-01-24, 06:59 PM

travisc, I do this, but it's still way too slow!

travisc · 2002-01-24, 11:35 PM

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On 2002-01-24 18:59, JohnnyG wrote:
travisc, I do this, but it's still way too slow!

Well, nobody seems to be able to get the IPG quite right. Rogers is close to being real nice, so I can live with it :smile:

Systine · 2002-01-25, 08:07 AM

There are now some post going up on alt.tv.tech.hdtv of others with Toshiba's complaining of the quality of not only digital cable but satillite compared to regular cable.

Anyone else here with a Toshiba notice this???

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2002-01-18, 08:16 AM	#1
Systine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: GTA Posts: 190	I just received my new HDTV. I hooked up regular analog cable to the antenna, then connected my digital cable using s-video. When I toggle between the digital and analog signal the analog is much crisper (Global and CNBC are really apparent). Of course I certainly notice a difference when I am actually on one of the digital stations (National Geo, TMN, etc), these look great. Anyone else see this or is it just me?

2002-01-18, 12:04 PM	#2
JohnnyG Veteran Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North York, Ontario Posts: 10,407	Try using composite video out from your digital terminal. Your TV has a much better comb filter than the terminal has.

2002-01-23, 01:13 PM	#3
Systine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: GTA Posts: 190	Thanks for the advice but unfortunately that didn't workout. I call Rogers, they said the it was a problem with the set top box and would have to fix it. Get this they can't though because they are out of them! Not only are they out of HDTV set top boxes but regular digital ones too! So now I am out of luck until mid next week.

2002-01-23, 05:51 PM	#5
Cdn_Photo Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mississauga Posts: 390	Rogers is using Scientific Atlanta for all their boxes. For HD, it is the 2000HD. For normal Digital Cable, they have the 2000 and 3100. The 3100HD is expected very soon.

2002-01-23, 06:22 PM	#6
doktersteve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 31	thanks. another question (i should make another thread, bad me)... what is the menu like on the rogers system? does it compare to the new BEV menu? i hate shaw's menu. it is ugly and 8-bit looking (if you know what i mean). shaw is using Motorolla boxes now. i have no idea what the model is... but they are actually proud of thier new system. i think that satellite runs circles around it IMHO.

2002-01-23, 08:18 PM	#7
digitalcable Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 499	I personally consider the Rogers IPG to be the most superior of all the other provders. Its lightning fast and you can browse a week in advance with Picture in Guide. You can also set your colors for the guides appearance. Its a nifty little feature.

2002-01-24, 12:00 PM	#9
JohnnyG Veteran Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North York, Ontario Posts: 10,407	My biggest pet peeve about the EPG on Rogers is that it takes a month to scroll the guide from 282 to 3! On Star Choice, when the EPG is on-screen, you can key in a channel number and the guide will reposition itself to begin at that point - makes perfect sense! With Rogers, doing the same thing will change channels - makes no sense!

2002-01-24, 05:19 PM	#12
digitalcable Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 499	The way the guide works is just a function of software. Maybe another version of software in the future will allow you to jump ahead in the guide without the channel changing with it.

2002-01-24, 06:59 PM	#13
JohnnyG Veteran Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North York, Ontario Posts: 10,407	travisc, I do this, but it's still way too slow!

2002-01-25, 08:07 AM	#15
Systine Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: GTA Posts: 190	There are now some post going up on alt.tv.tech.hdtv of others with Toshiba's complaining of the quality of not only digital cable but satillite compared to regular cable. Anyone else here with a Toshiba notice this???