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Old 2009-06-16, 11:34 AM   #136
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Thanks, at present I don't have a separate DPP switch as with DPP twin to a single 61xx receiver not needed. I have it working ok with the other dish that's mounted using old school LNB's and will just use a SW21 to get both satellites. Nice to know there's some other options though; I'd explore them if I was living there full time but for a cottage I can live with it as is.
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Old 2009-06-16, 11:25 PM   #137
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and 1 other thing i forgot to mention is that you would probably have to use 2 separate dishpro stacked lnbs instead of the one with the 2 lnbs in one housing since the very long cable lengths would probably reduce the commands from the receiver so much that the built in switch inside the lnbs might not be able to read the data. with 2 separate stacked lnbs and enough amplification you should be able to get hundreds of feet from the dish. if you have power near the dish, you could put powered lnb launch amplifiers in and not have to worry about the voltage loss in the cable either.
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Old 2009-06-17, 08:03 AM   #138
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Hi, having some issues with DPP twin and single 6141 receiver. In Muskoka and a long run with 2 cables to dish on a tower as ridge behind property. 2 and 3 sections of cable as not able to do in single run - used high quality outdoor quad shield; with good compression fittings. Receiver can see satellites with single cable run to 6141 but only on "odd" numbered transponders and not able to get a picture, strengths of about 55% on 91 and 73% on 82. Check switch etc. doesn't help - looks like not "locking on" and shows an "X" in checkswitch report for transponder under Port 1 and Port 2 and "reception Error" under status. Will try outdoors close to tower later but lack equipment to do now. From what I've read it's my distance (possibly cabling/connections of course as well) that's the issue.

My question is whether a DPP44 would help especially if I mount it with power close to the tower (I have an electrical panel near tower and power at the junction halfway as well)? The rest of the run to house would then presumably act like indoor wiring usually does. Happy to buy the switch if I know it will solve the problem.

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Remember there is a 3 db loss per connector and you are already into a long run with associated losses.

The swirtch may help, but the simplest and cheapest is to go grab one of the (june 2009) cable offers from the source ($25 for 500 feet RG6). If that works you are good to go, if not you have at least removed the db loss and any corossion issues down the road.

The DPP44 does have a power inserter which helps, but doesn't fix bad design (extra long multi-segment cable run).
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Old 2009-06-17, 10:06 AM   #139
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Thanks. The problem is that this is in very rough terrain and we only found out about the possiblity of placing the dish on a communications tower on the property midway through construction; it was just the way the timing worked out with earth moving equipment that the cable runs were buried in segments. If I'd known then what I know now I'd have done it differently, but running cable in rough rural country isn't anything like running it in the city or in farm areas.
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Old 2009-07-03, 03:34 PM   #140
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Hello All,
Just wanted to give you an update on my DPP44 and 4100 matter. It looks like the problem is my television set of all things. It looks like the TV isn't shielded properly and since I was putting the receiver above the TV unit, there was some sort of interference going on that cause the receiver to drop transpnders....Yikes....Move the receiver well away from the TV and now all is fine. Just wished that I had thought of it earlier than replacing the cable run twice and the connectors a zillion times. Not sure who suggested to move the receiver, but t it worked!!..Thanks all..

Tazz..
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Old 2009-07-03, 05:52 PM   #141
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Ok here is what I am going to do, I have 2 dual tuners and 1 single tuner, I will run a DPP twin lnb, 1 line to 1 room into DPP separator and into receiver and then second line into different room with same setup into dual tuner, now I want to run a DPP splitter into one of the lines coming off of Twin which will feed single tuner and dual tuner. Is this possible and which switch would I use, I have talked to 2 different dealers who sell the stuff and 1 says it will work and 1 says it won't. Thankyou.
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Old 2009-07-04, 08:27 AM   #142
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tazzsterk2, yes you have discovered the major flaw with the 4100. It caused hundreds of service calls when first released for the exact reasons you found.
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Old 2009-07-05, 11:33 PM   #143
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the dishpro splitter should only be used to feed the 2 inputs of 1 receiver because that receiver knows what the other tuner is looking for and can send a command down the cable to ask for one of the 4 polarities to downconverted/upconverted to the band it has reserved for that tuner.
if you try to feed 2 different receivers from the splitter they don't have the ability to communicate with each other and reserve 2 different frequency bands to use to get one of the polarities for each. if you have run out of ports to hookup to, the only solution is to add a compatible multiswitch and probably cascade out to a second switch.
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Old 2009-07-06, 09:09 AM   #144
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redster, you need a DPP44 multiswitch connected to the DPP LNBF, to achieve what you want. This will give you 4 outputs each can be split using a seperator to feed a Dual Tuner receiver or feed a single Tuner receiver.
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Old 2009-11-06, 11:45 AM   #145
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I have around 50 feet from the side of the house where I would be installing my dish to my wiring closet where I plan to install the DPP44 switch. Alternatively, I can install on a spot in the front of the house about 20 feet from the wiring closet.
My wife is not fond of the close location,as she does not like the look of a dish on the front of the house. Should I start convincing her that the dish should go on the front of the house, or can I get away with the side wall, which is further away? Is 50 feet too long of a run from the LNB to the switch?
I have lots of RG6 quad shielded cable from the sale at the source a few months back.

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Old 2009-11-06, 05:36 PM   #146
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I believe Dish Pro can surport runs of cable up to 200 feet. Not sure if that's dish to receiver or switch though.
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Old 2009-11-07, 08:19 PM   #147
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well, 200 feet would be no problem from either mounting location to any of the tv drops, if the DPP44 is ok with being 50 feet from the LNB's
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Old 2009-12-04, 07:54 PM   #148
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Will a Legacy SW44 power invertor/insertor work with a Dishpro plus 44?

Anyone know?
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Old 2009-12-09, 11:04 AM   #149
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Yep, it will work. I am using one at home with my Dpp44 and have had no problems.
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Old 2010-01-12, 02:39 PM   #150
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Is the following possible ?

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