Will Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix be the best selling HD title ever? - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

james99 · 2007-12-05, 10:26 AM

Talking about week one sales.

darrylr · 2007-12-05, 10:33 AM

I don't think it will be able to beat the combined 1st week sales of 300. There are just too many other movies out there for sale these days and too many other things going on. 300 had it's time almost to itself.

james99 · 2007-12-05, 11:04 AM

But 300 didn't come out during the XMAS holiday season. Plus, more players exist today thanx to price cuts covering both colours.

Measuring sales will be tricky since many folks are buying the whole boxset.

darrylr · 2007-12-05, 11:12 AM

Yep the box set as well will complicate it too. I know i'm buying the set.

haulin oats · 2007-12-05, 11:15 AM

I don't think so, unless they count the box set as previously mentioned. I know I'll buy the box set and not the individual title.

Bullseye · 2007-12-05, 11:16 AM

The dvd set may be, but I doubt the HD and blu-ray. Not every family has HD and Blu-ray player, and that of course plays a role in this, as you need these player in order to watch hi-def versions

hc666 · 2007-12-05, 11:21 AM

Nope, I don't think i'm buying it. Consumer confusion setting in lol

Will rent though.

Bullseye · 2007-12-05, 11:35 AM

The woman is rich enough as it is

PrimeBane · 2007-12-05, 12:33 PM

I don't think so.

As Ratatouille, Cars and Shrek have all proven content aimed at the younger crowds doesn't do as well in HD as the scifi and fantasy stuff.

While I'm sure the DVD sales will be 2nd only to Transformers, HDM sales will probably be somewhere between Transformers and Ratatouille like sales IMO.

james99 · 2007-12-05, 01:13 PM

But this movie is available for both formats so it has a fighting chance against the Disney titles. We shall see soon enough.

It's also competing against Bourne.

darrylr · 2007-12-05, 01:37 PM

I think it will likely sell more than the 115,000 Transformers sold in it's first week and will be the #2 combined biggest selling title in week one after 300.

This is just my feeling though and I would be very happy if it did prove me wrong and become #1. I guess it does have a better chance at being the #1 if they count all 4 SKU's (Blu and Red sets and also Blu and Red single movies).

Even if it sold at the same rate as Ratatouille (about 65,000 in week 1) it wouldn't be even close to enough combined with HD-DVD to sell more than 300 since 65,000 x 1.5 = ~ 100,000 (well short of the 200,000+ for 300).

james99 · 2007-12-05, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darrylr

I think it will likely sell more than the 115,000 Transformers sold in it's first week and will be the #2 combined biggest selling title in week one after 300.

You mean 190,000 (but that's a subject for another thread).

shabbs · 2007-12-05, 04:56 PM

I'm just curious to see the split between Blu-ray and HD DVD.

Luis_A51 · 2007-12-05, 05:05 PM

There are so many more total HDDVD+Bluray players out there that the potential userbase is a lot bigger than in 300's release week.

All lets not forget that Harry Potter has an amazingly large fanbase. OoTP did about $80million more Domestic over $400million foreign more at the box office than 300.

"Better movie selection" now is offset entirely by the fact that its the holiday season IMO.

JonO · 2007-12-05, 05:06 PM

Will be interesting to see if the Potter hype can pull this through... I personally don't think so, but I have been proven wrong many times over by Potter fans

"According to Nielsen VideoScan, all three Harry Potter DVDs/videos – Sorcerer’s Stone, Chamber of Secrets, and Prisoner of Azkaban – debuted at #1 and remained the #1 family film for the first 3 weeks of each release. “Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban” (Warner Home Video, released 11/23/04) was the #1 selling family video, and #4 video regardless of category, in all of 2004. “Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets” (Warner Home Video, released 4/11/03) was the #4 selling video in 2003 and the #3 family video in 2003. “Harry Potter And The Sorcerers Stone” (Warner Home Video, released 5/28/02) was the #3 selling video in 2002 and was the #2 family video in 2002."

The prime advantage Potter has is that it will be a Warner release. Had Paramount stayed neutral, I don't think it would have been close to Transformers...

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Luis_A51 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Calgary Posts: 785	There are so many more total HDDVD+Bluray players out there that the potential userbase is a lot bigger than in 300's release week. All lets not forget that Harry Potter has an amazingly large fanbase. OoTP did about $80million more Domestic over $400million foreign more at the box office than 300. "Better movie selection" now is offset entirely by the fact that its the holiday season IMO. __________________ Sony KDS-60A2000, Sony Playstation 1/2/3 (60gig) and PSP, Sony STR-DG910, Pioneer/Sony 7.1, 39 PS3 Games, 120 BR movies

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2007-12-05, 10:26 AM	#1
james99 Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burlington Posts: 24,791	Will Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix be the best selling HD title ever? Talking about week one sales.

2007-12-05, 10:33 AM	#2
darrylr Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nepean, Ontario Posts: 2,980	I don't think it will be able to beat the combined 1st week sales of 300. There are just too many other movies out there for sale these days and too many other things going on. 300 had it's time almost to itself. Last edited by darrylr; 2007-12-05 at 10:47 AM.

2007-12-05, 11:04 AM	#3
james99 Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burlington Posts: 24,791	But 300 didn't come out during the XMAS holiday season. Plus, more players exist today thanx to price cuts covering both colours. Measuring sales will be tricky since many folks are buying the whole boxset.

2007-12-05, 11:12 AM	#4
darrylr Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nepean, Ontario Posts: 2,980	Yep the box set as well will complicate it too. I know i'm buying the set.

2007-12-05, 11:15 AM	#5
haulin oats Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Port Moody, BC Posts: 120	I don't think so, unless they count the box set as previously mentioned. I know I'll buy the box set and not the individual title.

2007-12-05, 11:16 AM	#6
Bullseye Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 187	The dvd set may be, but I doubt the HD and blu-ray. Not every family has HD and Blu-ray player, and that of course plays a role in this, as you need these player in order to watch hi-def versions

2007-12-05, 11:35 AM	#8
Bullseye Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 187	The woman is rich enough as it is

2007-12-05, 12:33 PM	#9
PrimeBane Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,766	I don't think so. As Ratatouille, Cars and Shrek have all proven content aimed at the younger crowds doesn't do as well in HD as the scifi and fantasy stuff. While I'm sure the DVD sales will be 2nd only to Transformers, HDM sales will probably be somewhere between Transformers and Ratatouille like sales IMO.

2007-12-05, 01:13 PM	#10
james99 Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burlington Posts: 24,791	But this movie is available for both formats so it has a fighting chance against the Disney titles. We shall see soon enough. It's also competing against Bourne.

2007-12-05, 01:37 PM	#11
darrylr Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nepean, Ontario Posts: 2,980	I think it will likely sell more than the 115,000 Transformers sold in it's first week and will be the #2 combined biggest selling title in week one after 300. This is just my feeling though and I would be very happy if it did prove me wrong and become #1. I guess it does have a better chance at being the #1 if they count all 4 SKU's (Blu and Red sets and also Blu and Red single movies). Even if it sold at the same rate as Ratatouille (about 65,000 in week 1) it wouldn't be even close to enough combined with HD-DVD to sell more than 300 since 65,000 x 1.5 = ~ 100,000 (well short of the 200,000+ for 300).

2007-12-05, 05:06 PM	#15
JonO Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 649	Will be interesting to see if the Potter hype can pull this through... I personally don't think so, but I have been proven wrong many times over by Potter fans "According to Nielsen VideoScan, all three Harry Potter DVDs/videos – Sorcerer’s Stone, Chamber of Secrets, and Prisoner of Azkaban – debuted at #1 and remained the #1 family film for the first 3 weeks of each release. “Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban” (Warner Home Video, released 11/23/04) was the #1 selling family video, and #4 video regardless of category, in all of 2004. “Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets” (Warner Home Video, released 4/11/03) was the #4 selling video in 2003 and the #3 family video in 2003. “Harry Potter And The Sorcerers Stone” (Warner Home Video, released 5/28/02) was the #3 selling video in 2002 and was the #2 family video in 2002." The prime advantage Potter has is that it will be a Warner release. Had Paramount stayed neutral, I don't think it would have been close to Transformers...