IGN puts the boots to Lair - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

Dioneo · 2007-08-31, 03:57 PM

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/817/817117p1.html

It gets a 4.9?!?

Wow, I didn't think the game would be good - but it's not easy to earn that bad of a score.

It bugs me that IGN is nothing but positive comments and hype for any upcoming game, but at least their reviews of the finished product are honest.

prufrock · 2007-08-31, 04:34 PM

There have been complaints about the controls in some of their previews, but I think the editors are just hopeful that companies will develop great, truly next-gen games.

I don't think there has been a game yet that - graphics aside - is far superior to the previous gen.

4.9 is a hammering, and the talk on lots of the forums at IGN is how IGN editors are completely biased against PS3 games. Considering that the majority of the revenue comes from advertising, I'd have to think they'd be pretty stupid to be that way. Besides, the PS2 was strongly lauded at that site.

Haroon · 2007-09-01, 09:32 AM

Gamespot gave it a 4.5 - bad camera/controls being one of the main issues followed by shallow gameplay. Not a good sign for a gaming system when an exclusive gets hammered. Heavenly Swords is now the New Hope...

lpearl · 2007-09-01, 09:52 AM

"I don't think there has been a game yet that - graphics aside - is far superior to the previous gen."

The NHL series has taken major steps on NG. Unfortunately, the PC version is still on the old engine.

mcpug · 2007-09-01, 10:19 AM

Playstation magazine gave it a 5/10. Not even the home team endorses it.

Eluder · 2007-09-01, 04:55 PM

Wow, another highly anticipated PS3 game gets slammed. Seriously, what's going on?

entropy05 · 2007-09-01, 06:14 PM

Now that's a bust!

PrimeBane · 2007-09-02, 02:45 PM

A buddy of mine in the US bought it... graphics wise he says it has a pretty significant WOW factor. Like Gears of War WOW.

He also said the game requires you to learn how to use the sixaxix motion properly to play the game... that could be turning people of.

Apparently there's not a lot of significant challenges also. According to him, you and the dragon are already the most powerful unit in the game and nothing can stand up to you.

IMO it sound like it might be at least worth a rent, but I won't be wasting my $70 plus tax on it.

pavesk8 · 2007-09-03, 08:36 AM

I read all the reviews but bought it anyways. I've played through the first four levels and it is pretty cool. The controls aren't broken as far as I can tell. You really do have to focus on what you are doing. I found myself trying to steer the dragon with the analog stick, which only rotates the camera, then overcompensating with the sixaxis controls. So far I have no regrets about the purchase. Oh yeah you can also remote play LAIR through the PSP!

calvin940 · 2007-09-03, 03:23 PM

I gotta tell you that the news of Lair's demise is greatly exaggerated. Definitely the controls take a great deal of getting used to but by no means are they as bad as is described in either review. Maybe those guys just forgot how to learn.

Graphics are definitely visually stunning and the animation is pretty smooth for the most part. I do see the odd framerate drop but I it's something expected with a 1st gen game of this level and not something that ruins the game by any stretch. So far, I have not regretted my purchase.

Cal

Kallel00 · 2007-09-03, 04:35 PM

Sony needs to give us a Lair demo asap, then the whole "is control that bad?" discussion would be put to an end, as everyone would be able to make up their own mind ...

and well, it'd let us see how great the graphics are without purchasing it

pavesk8 · 2007-09-03, 10:16 PM

I just finished playing a couple more levels tonight. I got through the bridge level that the IGN reviewer got sooo frustrated with. Did it on my first try without dying once. Maybe the reviewer has a nervous twitch or something....

Dioneo · 2007-09-04, 09:45 AM

Penny Arcade delivers a roundhouse:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2007/09/03

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/09/03

Quote:

I would never ask you to take my word over your own experience, though, and you'll certainly find those online who will bolster you in your choice to purchase. There are some who derive a kind of perverse superiority from their mastery of the game's ambiguous mechanics. For my part, I don't give a good Goddamn if someone has trained themselves to eat **** and like it. The game is not challenging, it's difficult to play, and it's taken many years but I'm ready to begin making this distinction.

HA!

pavesk8 · 2007-09-04, 11:16 AM

I guess the people who are too used to playing on the Wii just can't wrap their heads around the SIXAXIS controls. I really think people should try the game and judge for themselves before slamming it.

Lou Sytsma · 2007-09-04, 11:23 AM

Yeah imagine that, Nintendo designed an easy to use interface.

Shame on them!

2007-08-31, 03:57 PM	#1
Dioneo Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: GTA IV Posts: 1,768	IGN puts the boots to Lair http://ps3.ign.com/articles/817/817117p1.html It gets a 4.9?!? Wow, I didn't think the game would be good - but it's not easy to earn that bad of a score. It bugs me that IGN is nothing but positive comments and hype for any upcoming game, but at least their reviews of the finished product are honest. __________________ Long live the console war! Buy 'em all! Just don't give Sony any of your Personal info!

2007-08-31, 04:34 PM	#2
prufrock Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern BC Posts: 324	There have been complaints about the controls in some of their previews, but I think the editors are just hopeful that companies will develop great, truly next-gen games. I don't think there has been a game yet that - graphics aside - is far superior to the previous gen. 4.9 is a hammering, and the talk on lots of the forums at IGN is how IGN editors are completely biased against PS3 games. Considering that the majority of the revenue comes from advertising, I'd have to think they'd be pretty stupid to be that way. Besides, the PS2 was strongly lauded at that site. __________________ Panasonic TH50PX77, Choice 530, Samsung 40C650, Sharp LC3742U, Choice 505, Pioneer VSX-D409, Xbox 360, PS3 x 2

2007-09-01, 09:32 AM	#3
Haroon Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 116	Gamespot gave it a 4.5 - bad camera/controls being one of the main issues followed by shallow gameplay. Not a good sign for a gaming system when an exclusive gets hammered. Heavenly Swords is now the New Hope... __________________ My Collection

2007-09-03, 08:36 AM	#9
pavesk8 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa ON Posts: 50	I read all the reviews but bought it anyways. I've played through the first four levels and it is pretty cool. The controls aren't broken as far as I can tell. You really do have to focus on what you are doing. I found myself trying to steer the dragon with the analog stick, which only rotates the camera, then overcompensating with the sixaxis controls. So far I have no regrets about the purchase. Oh yeah you can also remote play LAIR through the PSP! __________________ Hey you, yah you. Come here! Go away.

2007-09-03, 10:16 PM	#12
pavesk8 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa ON Posts: 50	I just finished playing a couple more levels tonight. I got through the bridge level that the IGN reviewer got sooo frustrated with. Did it on my first try without dying once. Maybe the reviewer has a nervous twitch or something.... __________________ Hey you, yah you. Come here! Go away.

2007-09-01, 09:52 AM	#4
lpearl Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 42	"I don't think there has been a game yet that - graphics aside - is far superior to the previous gen." The NHL series has taken major steps on NG. Unfortunately, the PC version is still on the old engine.

2007-09-01, 10:19 AM	#5
mcpug Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Playstation magazine gave it a 5/10. Not even the home team endorses it.

2007-09-01, 04:55 PM	#6
Eluder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,446	Wow, another highly anticipated PS3 game gets slammed. Seriously, what's going on?

2007-09-01, 06:14 PM	#7
entropy05 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East GTA Posts: 388	Now that's a bust!

2007-09-02, 02:45 PM	#8
PrimeBane Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,766	A buddy of mine in the US bought it... graphics wise he says it has a pretty significant WOW factor. Like Gears of War WOW. He also said the game requires you to learn how to use the sixaxix motion properly to play the game... that could be turning people of. Apparently there's not a lot of significant challenges also. According to him, you and the dragon are already the most powerful unit in the game and nothing can stand up to you. IMO it sound like it might be at least worth a rent, but I won't be wasting my $70 plus tax on it.

2007-09-03, 03:23 PM	#10
calvin940 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 1,600	I gotta tell you that the news of Lair's demise is greatly exaggerated. Definitely the controls take a great deal of getting used to but by no means are they as bad as is described in either review. Maybe those guys just forgot how to learn. Graphics are definitely visually stunning and the animation is pretty smooth for the most part. I do see the odd framerate drop but I it's something expected with a 1st gen game of this level and not something that ruins the game by any stretch. So far, I have not regretted my purchase. Cal

2007-09-03, 04:35 PM	#11
Kallel00 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 28	Sony needs to give us a Lair demo asap, then the whole "is control that bad?" discussion would be put to an end, as everyone would be able to make up their own mind ... and well, it'd let us see how great the graphics are without purchasing it

2007-09-04, 11:16 AM	#14
pavesk8 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ottawa ON Posts: 50	I guess the people who are too used to playing on the Wii just can't wrap their heads around the SIXAXIS controls. I really think people should try the game and judge for themselves before slamming it. __________________ Hey you, yah you. Come here! Go away. Last edited by pavesk8; 2007-09-04 at 11:23 AM.

2007-09-04, 11:23 AM	#15
Lou Sytsma Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: St. Albert, Alberta, Canada Posts: 283	Yeah imagine that, Nintendo designed an easy to use interface. Shame on them! __________________ Every man is my superior, in that, I may learn from him.

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