MuchMoreRetro & MuchLOUD to be Removed in Sept.

G22 · 2007-07-23, 01:39 PM

Anyone know why this channel (572) is being removed the week of Sept. 1? It just happens to be the only music channel I watch.

KSPSlice · 2007-07-23, 07:39 PM

It's the only music channel I also watch and one of the reasons I switched to Expressvu from Starchoice. Is the channel going off the air or is Bell just removing it from its programming line up?

G22 · 2007-07-23, 07:45 PM

Here is what is says on the latest bill...

The week of September 1, 2007, CMT and W Network will be included in your basic package. For questions
about your continuing service, please visit ********/tv or call 1-888-SKY-DISH. Watch for new channels
coming soon!

The week of Sept. 1, 2007, MuchMoreRetro and MuchLoud will be removed from ExpressVu’s service. For
questions about your continuing service, please visit ********/tv or call 1-888-SKY-DISH. Watch for new
channels coming soon!

Catch CBC Country Canada's coverage of the FIFA U-20 World Cup from June 30 to July 23. Over 150 hours of
coverage with more than 40 hours LIVE! All on channel 641. Call 1-888-SKY-DISH to order.

TJ77 · 2007-07-23, 07:47 PM

*C removed PunchMuch in June due to low viewer ship, so possibly for the same reason.
Maybe CTVgm is charging more or possibly shutting down. Maybe to make room for HD...

DrAkO · 2007-07-23, 07:51 PM

It's possible.

Now they need to remove SD channels to add new HD channels.....

G22 · 2007-07-23, 08:00 PM

I don't have an HDTV. How about you send me a few $1000 EMT's so I can go buy one.

Boavista · 2007-07-23, 09:38 PM

O WTF???!? I Just added the god damn channel 4 days ago and Their going to remove it now!?!? What the heck Bell!?
Just keep on pressing the wrong buttons bell.. Im starting to become one very pissed costumer...

SportsFan · 2007-07-24, 06:23 AM

They're removing these and keeping the abominable PunchMuch? That's now three channels gone from the Variety 3 pack this year.

Could this have anything to do with the CHUM acquisition and CRTC regulations on the ratio of owned channels a provider carries?

Mozza · 2007-07-24, 09:40 AM

I'm pretty sure the reason they are being dropped is because they won't be broadcast anymore. It's hardly Bell's fault. I'm looking for a link, but I'm pretty sure I read it is because of the recent change of ownership of the parent company of those channels.

DrAkO · 2007-07-24, 09:47 AM

Go to the Much More retro web site and you won't see Bell Express Vu in TV providers...Same thing on Much Loud web site.

Maybe Bell don't renew the contract with these 2 channels.

TJ77 · 2007-07-24, 10:40 AM

There was an issue with the number of CTVgm channels BEV would have after the acquisition, but the CRTC gave them longer than this to sort it out. Maybe Teacher's wants them in compliance?
Something is up. *c drops Punch now BEV drops Retro and Loud...

bigoranget · 2007-07-24, 11:19 AM

Nothing is up. The channels are being dropped so that Bell can be in compliance with the 5:1 rule regarding category 2 digital channels. They probably have enough english and ethnic catigory 2 digital channels to keep the remaining channels.

SportsFan · 2007-07-24, 03:04 PM

So it is a ratio thing. Are there any category 2 channels that BEV could add to comply with the ratio?

These are the CHUM category 2 channels:

Court TV
Drive-in Classics
MuchLoud
MuchMoreRetro
MuchVibe
PunchMuch
TV Land

It figures they would drop my two favourites from that list.

TJ77 · 2007-07-24, 05:11 PM

Remember that those are now CTVgm channels. They could actually drop ESPN Classic, Discovery HD, Animal Planet, or Discovery Civilization, but I guess they choose the lowest rated two, i.e. lowest sub numbers.

SportsFan · 2007-07-24, 06:14 PM

They probably narrowed it down to Nimiq 2 channels since they would affect fewer subscribers. I'm still not happy.

2007-07-23, 01:39 PM	#1
G22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 229	MuchMoreRetro & MuchLOUD to be Removed in Sept. Anyone know why this channel (572) is being removed the week of Sept. 1? It just happens to be the only music channel I watch.

2007-07-24, 11:19 AM	#12
bigoranget Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hamilton Posts: 2,331	Nothing is up. The channels are being dropped so that Bell can be in compliance with the 5:1 rule regarding category 2 digital channels. They probably have enough english and ethnic catigory 2 digital channels to keep the remaining channels. __________________ Canadian Cable & Satellite Database

2007-07-24, 03:04 PM	#13
SportsFan Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nanaimo, BC Posts: 593	So it is a ratio thing. Are there any category 2 channels that BEV could add to comply with the ratio? These are the CHUM category 2 channels: Court TV Drive-in Classics MuchLoud MuchMoreRetro MuchVibe PunchMuch TV Land It figures they would drop my two favourites from that list.

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2007-07-23, 07:39 PM	#2
KSPSlice Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 128	It's the only music channel I also watch and one of the reasons I switched to Expressvu from Starchoice. Is the channel going off the air or is Bell just removing it from its programming line up?

2007-07-23, 07:45 PM	#3
G22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 229	Here is what is says on the latest bill... The week of September 1, 2007, CMT and W Network will be included in your basic package. For questions about your continuing service, please visit ******/tv or call 1-888-SKY-DISH. Watch for new channels coming soon! The week of Sept. 1, 2007, MuchMoreRetro and MuchLoud will be removed from ExpressVu’s service. For questions about your continuing service, please visit ******/tv or call 1-888-SKY-DISH. Watch for new channels coming soon! Catch CBC Country Canada's coverage of the FIFA U-20 World Cup from June 30 to July 23. Over 150 hours of coverage with more than 40 hours LIVE! All on channel 641. Call 1-888-SKY-DISH to order.

2007-07-23, 07:47 PM	#4
TJ77 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,723	*C removed PunchMuch in June due to low viewer ship, so possibly for the same reason. Maybe CTVgm is charging more or possibly shutting down. Maybe to make room for HD...

2007-07-23, 07:51 PM	#5
DrAkO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montréal, Qc Posts: 393	It's possible. Now they need to remove SD channels to add new HD channels.....

2007-07-23, 08:00 PM	#6
G22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 229	I don't have an HDTV. How about you send me a few $1000 EMT's so I can go buy one.

2007-07-23, 09:38 PM	#7
Boavista Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto - Bell Fibe TV Posts: 480	O WTF???!? I Just added the god damn channel 4 days ago and Their going to remove it now!?!? What the heck Bell!? Just keep on pressing the wrong buttons bell.. Im starting to become one very pissed costumer...

2007-07-24, 06:23 AM	#8
SportsFan Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nanaimo, BC Posts: 593	They're removing these and keeping the abominable PunchMuch? That's now three channels gone from the Variety 3 pack this year. Could this have anything to do with the CHUM acquisition and CRTC regulations on the ratio of owned channels a provider carries?

2007-07-24, 09:40 AM	#9
Mozza Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 707	I'm pretty sure the reason they are being dropped is because they won't be broadcast anymore. It's hardly Bell's fault. I'm looking for a link, but I'm pretty sure I read it is because of the recent change of ownership of the parent company of those channels.

2007-07-24, 09:47 AM	#10
DrAkO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Montréal, Qc Posts: 393	Go to the Much More retro web site and you won't see Bell Express Vu in TV providers...Same thing on Much Loud web site. Maybe Bell don't renew the contract with these 2 channels.

2007-07-24, 10:40 AM	#11
TJ77 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,723	There was an issue with the number of CTVgm channels BEV would have after the acquisition, but the CRTC gave them longer than this to sort it out. Maybe Teacher's wants them in compliance? Something is up. *c drops Punch now BEV drops Retro and Loud...

2007-07-24, 05:11 PM	#14
TJ77 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,723	Remember that those are now CTVgm channels. They could actually drop ESPN Classic, Discovery HD, Animal Planet, or Discovery Civilization, but I guess they choose the lowest rated two, i.e. lowest sub numbers.

2007-07-24, 06:14 PM	#15
SportsFan Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Nanaimo, BC Posts: 593	They probably narrowed it down to Nimiq 2 channels since they would affect fewer subscribers. I'm still not happy.