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Old 2007-07-12, 09:07 AM   #1
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Angry Man strangles Rottweiler to death

From this article in today's edition of The Ottawa Citizen:
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A man strangled his Rottweiler to death after it attacked his friend in Carp Wednesday night, according to Ottawa Police.

The seven-year-old dog attacked a 40-year-old man in his home on Howie Road at about 8:30 p.m. The Carp man had been drinking and taunting the animal.

The owner of the Rottweiler, a 25-year-old man, strangled it to death to prevent further injury.
I would have strangled the drunken idiot who was taunting my dog!
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Old 2007-07-12, 10:30 AM   #2
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I would have strangled the drunken idiot who was taunting my dog!
And if you had, you'd have been in prison. Why do you advocate the killing of humans?
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Old 2007-07-12, 10:44 AM   #3
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to advocate - to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument; recommend publicly.
I'm advocating the killing of humans about as much as you're advocating the killing of dogs.

My comment was very clearly meant to convey my disgust at the killing of a dog that reacted to taunts of a drunken fool. The fool deserved to be attacked. The dog did not deserve to be strangled to death by his owner.
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Old 2007-07-12, 11:31 AM   #4
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Old 2007-07-12, 11:48 AM   #5
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Okay, so the drunken friend probably deserved whatever injuries he may have sustained after the dog attacked him. But what's the owner supposed to do at that point? If the animal is out of control and he feels there's an imminent threat to his or another human's life then he's entitled to take whatever course of action he deems necessary.

Would you feel different about it if it was a kid who had been taunting the dog and was being attacked? Sure the dog isn't to blame but are you going to stand by and watch it maul someone to death?

I doubt either of these characters are Nobel prize candidates but anyone who values the life of a dog over the life of a human being would have bigger problems than merely being unintelligent.
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We don't know - because the article does not state - how "imminent" the threat was to the drunkard's life and what exactly the owner did prior to strangling the dog. I submit, therefore, that the owner should have:
- tried harder to prevent his idiot friend from taunting the dog in the first place; and
- tried harder to restrain the dog.

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...anyone who values the life of a dog over the life of a human being would have bigger problems than merely being unintelligent.
I'll value the life of a good dog (or any other animal) over the life of a bad person any day.

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Old 2007-07-12, 12:03 PM   #7
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Then you are a far worse person than either of the people in the news story and I'm frankly amazed at your lack of shame and compassion for your fellow human beings. Quite remarkable.

You'll note that no charges have been laid in that case. If you stood by and watched someone mauled to death by a dog and could have prevented it you most likely wouldn't be so lucky. It would be interesting to be at your sentencing hearing to see whether any shred of humility had crept in.
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I have plenty of compassion for humans. I also have plenty of compassion for animals, something you evidently lack. Quite remarkable.

I would not stand by and watched anyone get mauled to death. Neither would I strangle a dog to death. You would kill, I would not. You are the lesser of the two of us.

But I like you anyway.
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Here is my take on it without knowing the size or strength of the guy trying to subdue the dog....

I have a 110 pound Shepard hound mix dog. I am about 170lbs on a good day. I have had to pull my dog back from chasing a car or running after a cat. In one instance I used the leash and the other my hands and arms on his collar.

Couple of things I would have done in that situation is to restrain the dog using his collar (if he has one) or throw a blanket over him. If they were in the living room I would think there would be a blanket or pillows or something that could be used. In that situation it also takes a calm head to prevail. Obviously that guy did not have one. The drunken fool is a complete moron for taunting a dog (especially one of that breed) in the first place. The owner is a complete moron for killing his dog (in my opinion).

Once again this is all based on conjecture and opinion.
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I would not stand by and watched anyone get mauled to death. Neither would I strangle a dog to death. You would kill, I would not. You are the lesser of the two of us.
If you think I'm advocating that the animal should be destroyed as anything other than a last resort then I'm sorry you got that impression. Of course you'd try and restrain it if you thought it possible before anyone came to serious harm.

My only problem is with someone who would refuse to take whatever action necessary, even if that meant killing the animal, to prevent the loss of human life. You've clearly stated your point on that matter so we can agree to disagree. But rest assured I'd still strangle your dog if it was ripping your throat out, hopefully in time so you'd still be able to thank me later.
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My only problem is with someone who would refuse to take whatever action necessary, even if that meant killing the animal, to prevent the loss of human life.
If I could keep the average person from being killed by an animal, I would do so, even if it meant killing the animal as a last resort only. In this respect, we do not disagree.

If, however, I were watching an abusive owner getting his dues from his loyal but abused dog/pet, I would be inclined not to interfere.

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But rest assured I'd still strangle your dog if it was ripping your throat out, hopefully in time so you'd still be able to thank me later.
Thanks! And I'd do the same for you. Errr...you are a good person, right?
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Old 2007-07-12, 01:47 PM   #12
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I'm actually the president and treasurer of a small but active cat strangling club in my area. A really small club. Okay, it's just me. But who in their right mind wouldn't want to strangle this:



I mean...come on! He's asking for it and it makes me so mad.
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Wow overheated bending back to courteous discourse.

My compliments to all of you. I hope one of you is around if a dog ever attacks me and rest assured, I will not have taunted it.
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Life's too short to fight. And I need to save my strength for that cat.
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I hope one of you is around if a dog ever attacks me and rest assured, I will not have taunted it.
Then you shall be saved!
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I'm actually the president and treasurer of a small but active cat strangling club in my area. A really small club. Okay, it's just me. ... I need to save my strength for that cat.
Go, cat, go!!
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