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lexcyn · 2012-02-10, 08:24 PM

Can anyone tell me why I can get CBC HD on my Hauppage 950Q but on my Samsung TV I can't?

The channel is 64.305.

Come to think of it there are a few I can get on my hauppage but not on my TV.

jmac698 · 2012-02-12, 08:52 PM

TV's generally don't display mpeg-4 video, while your tuner card may. My PCTV card displays mpeg-4.

Here's a clear QAM list for Feb, 2012 for Eastlink, in Dartmouth NS:

Code:

Name		VChan		Chan	Freq	Video	Res
OWN HD		116.3 		116	747	mpeg2	1920x1080
MGM HD		117.1301	117	753	mpeg4	1920x1080
Storm HD	117.1302	117	753	mpeg4	1920x1080
Hfest HD	117.1303	117	753	mpeg4	1920x1080
Warn HD		117.1304	117	753	mpeg4	1920x1080
W Mov SD	863.8		63	459	mpeg2	528x480
Sunda SD	863.9		63	459	mpeg2	528x480
OWN SD		872.5		72	513	mpeg2	528x480
Prev SD		877.12		77	543	mpeg2	528x480
Trav+Esc SD	878.1		78	549	mpeg2	528x480

VChan is the virtual channel; the label that comes with the stream. Chan is the equivalent channel based on frequency. Frequency is the, guess what. The mpeg4 channels are on free preview which will end Feb 19. The mpeg4 bitrate was around 5500kbps; this is equivalent to putting an average Bluray onto a DVD-R.

martinmonette · 2012-02-19, 10:26 PM

Hello I'm having some issues with getting clear qam channels. On my 26 inch Samsung TV it finds a bunch of channels when it does a scan, but I only get sound, there is no picture. The TV I believe I bought it in 2006.

I tired the same on a new Toshiba TV and it detects the same channels, expect the 480i ones work fine, the 1080i one, same as my Samsung no picture.

I just rebuilt my HTPC which has the WinTV HVR 1250 in it, and it's the same detects lots of clear qam channels but only the 480i ones have picture, the others is audio only.

Did a search on google but can't find anything talking about my problem. Hoping someone can help me out.

denben73 · 2012-02-19, 10:46 PM

I would have to say that from the way it sounds, the ones with no picture are being sent in MPEG4 format. Most QAM tuners in TVs and PC-TV tuner cards can't display mpeg4 channels, well not the video portion anyways.

Every system has a different level of MPEG4 channels.

martinmonette · 2012-02-20, 11:12 AM

Ok that is what I was thinking just couldn't find anything talking about the WinTV HVR 1250 not being about to work with mpeg4. So now I'm wondering if a tuner for the boxee box would even really work then.

jmac698 · 2012-02-20, 10:54 PM

My PCTV can display mpeg4, and yes that's likely the reason.
Same thing with an SD digital cable box, it will play the sound but no picture on HD channels, for a similar reason (it doesn't handle HD mpeg2).

You can still record the channel as a transport stream and play it back later, just can't watch it live.

Also try vlc which can display live mpeg4 from clearqam. Good luck figuring out how to change channels with it though. The frequencies I listed should help you out. The modulation is QAM256.

denben73 · 2012-02-20, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmac698

Also try vlc which can display live mpeg4 from clearqam. Good luck figuring out how to change channels with it though. The frequencies I listed should help you out. The modulation is QAM256.

VLC can tune with the TV tuner? Cool, I'll have to look into that. I have an HVR-1800. I'll have to break down and list a clear QAM scan for our system soon.

jmac698 · 2012-02-21, 04:48 AM

You can try Next PVR
http://forums.gbpvr.com/showthread.p...8th-January%29

You can try to get VLC working
http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=61680
You need to know this for one of the channels:
Virtual channel 116.3
Physical channel 116
subchannel 3
Freq 747MHz
SID 3
NID 0
TID 0
PMT PID 4095
PCR PID 256
Those last two numbers are often 2752 etc. type numbers.
I couldn't get vlc to work though

martinmonette · 2012-02-21, 03:28 PM

Cool ill try this, cause I couldn't find any mentions of what type of signal encoding the tuner could read, just that it can record in mpeg2.

denben73 · 2012-02-21, 09:26 PM

This is what is available in clear QAM in Timmins. Long list. Some of these have been in the clear since the digital map started in December 2010.

Quote:

55.8 MPEG2 SD FOX Seattle
56.303 MPEG2 SD Disney Junior
59.9 MPEG2 SD Documentary Channel
59.2 MPEG2 SD OWN
61.4 MPEG2 SD W Movies
62.4 MPEG2 SD Sundance
65.1208 MPEG2 SD Silver Screen Classics
65.1210 MPEG2 SD CPAC French
65.5 MPEG2 SD CPAC English
73.4 MPEG2 SD CBS WWJ Detroit
73.7 MPEG2 SD EastLink TV
73.8 MPEG2 SD Claimpost Realty
74.1402 MPEG2 SD Global CIII Toronto
75.8 MPEG2 SD CTV News Channel
75.9 MPEG2 SD V CFJP Montreal
75.12 MPEG2 SD Ontario Legislature
77.1005 MPEG2 SD What's New on EastLink
88.38 MPEG2 SD SuperSportsPack (only one of the channels)
105.3603 MPEG2 HD Discovery World HD
114.4402 MPEG2 HD APTN
123.5402 MPEG2 HD Family Channel
123.5403 MPEG2 HD Disney XD
129.1305 MPEG4 HD CBC CBMT Montreal
131.1401 MPEG4 HD W Movies
131.1403 MPEG4 HD PBS KCTS Seattle
131.1404 MPEG4 HD WPCH-TV
131.1405 MPEG4 HD CHCH Hamilton

No matter how much I try to align this properly, it won't.

jmac698 · 2012-02-22, 04:02 PM

My listing is in fact missing a few channels, for some reason my computer scan didn't pick them up. I also get silver screen and a few more.

Doppelganger399 · 2012-02-22, 06:06 PM

I scanned mine I don't get any HD I do get about 45 channels(not counting galaxy ch)

denben73 · 2012-02-22, 06:59 PM

I should have mentioned in my post from yesterday that was using my HVR-1800 on my PC to get that list. When I use the QAM tuner on the TV, I get the music channels too.

denben73 · 2012-04-20, 02:42 PM

I ran a QAM scan this morning and a lot of channels have moved here in Timmins. Channels are now sitting up to channel 135 (861 Mhz) and a 10 channel gap in the 70s to 80s. They are using channel 98 and 99 (108 to 120 Mhz) now too for a mix of SD and HD it looks like. The number of total channels found is up by maybe one or two, possibly OnDemand streams are included.

Anyways, showing on 126.5610 in clear QAM is a channel called EuroNews. I would think it is HD (I use that term loosely) because the picture is 16:9 and not stretched but it is definitely not HD quality. This is strange because I don't see this anywhere on our guide yet. Possible new channel, probably for the World News pack?

EDIT: Thanks 57...sorry about that.

2012-02-12, 08:52 PM	#77
jmac698 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 53	TV's generally don't display mpeg-4 video, while your tuner card may. My PCTV card displays mpeg-4. Here's a clear QAM list for Feb, 2012 for Eastlink, in Dartmouth NS: Code: Name VChan Chan Freq Video Res OWN HD 116.3 116 747 mpeg2 1920x1080 MGM HD 117.1301 117 753 mpeg4 1920x1080 Storm HD 117.1302 117 753 mpeg4 1920x1080 Hfest HD 117.1303 117 753 mpeg4 1920x1080 Warn HD 117.1304 117 753 mpeg4 1920x1080 W Mov SD 863.8 63 459 mpeg2 528x480 Sunda SD 863.9 63 459 mpeg2 528x480 OWN SD 872.5 72 513 mpeg2 528x480 Prev SD 877.12 77 543 mpeg2 528x480 Trav+Esc SD 878.1 78 549 mpeg2 528x480 VChan is the virtual channel; the label that comes with the stream. Chan is the equivalent channel based on frequency. Frequency is the, guess what. The mpeg4 channels are on free preview which will end Feb 19. The mpeg4 bitrate was around 5500kbps; this is equivalent to putting an average Bluray onto a DVD-R.

2012-04-20, 02:42 PM	#89
denben73 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Timmins, ON Posts: 817	Euronews in clear QAM I ran a QAM scan this morning and a lot of channels have moved here in Timmins. Channels are now sitting up to channel 135 (861 Mhz) and a 10 channel gap in the 70s to 80s. They are using channel 98 and 99 (108 to 120 Mhz) now too for a mix of SD and HD it looks like. The number of total channels found is up by maybe one or two, possibly OnDemand streams are included. Anyways, showing on 126.5610 in clear QAM is a channel called EuroNews. I would think it is HD (I use that term loosely) because the picture is 16:9 and not stretched but it is definitely not HD quality. This is strange because I don't see this anywhere on our guide yet. Possible new channel, probably for the World News pack? EDIT: Thanks 57...sorry about that. Last edited by 57; 2012-04-20 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Moved to existing thread

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2012-02-10, 08:24 PM	#76
lexcyn Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 26	Can anyone tell me why I can get CBC HD on my Hauppage 950Q but on my Samsung TV I can't? The channel is 64.305. Come to think of it there are a few I can get on my hauppage but not on my TV.

2012-02-19, 10:26 PM	#78
martinmonette Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	Hello I'm having some issues with getting clear qam channels. On my 26 inch Samsung TV it finds a bunch of channels when it does a scan, but I only get sound, there is no picture. The TV I believe I bought it in 2006. I tired the same on a new Toshiba TV and it detects the same channels, expect the 480i ones work fine, the 1080i one, same as my Samsung no picture. I just rebuilt my HTPC which has the WinTV HVR 1250 in it, and it's the same detects lots of clear qam channels but only the 480i ones have picture, the others is audio only. Did a search on google but can't find anything talking about my problem. Hoping someone can help me out.

2012-02-19, 10:46 PM	#79
denben73 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Timmins, ON Posts: 817	I would have to say that from the way it sounds, the ones with no picture are being sent in MPEG4 format. Most QAM tuners in TVs and PC-TV tuner cards can't display mpeg4 channels, well not the video portion anyways. Every system has a different level of MPEG4 channels.

2012-02-20, 11:12 AM	#80
martinmonette Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	Ok that is what I was thinking just couldn't find anything talking about the WinTV HVR 1250 not being about to work with mpeg4. So now I'm wondering if a tuner for the boxee box would even really work then.

2012-02-20, 10:54 PM	#81
jmac698 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 53	My PCTV can display mpeg4, and yes that's likely the reason. Same thing with an SD digital cable box, it will play the sound but no picture on HD channels, for a similar reason (it doesn't handle HD mpeg2). You can still record the channel as a transport stream and play it back later, just can't watch it live. Also try vlc which can display live mpeg4 from clearqam. Good luck figuring out how to change channels with it though. The frequencies I listed should help you out. The modulation is QAM256.

2012-02-21, 04:48 AM	#83
jmac698 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 53	You can try Next PVR http://forums.gbpvr.com/showthread.p...8th-January%29 You can try to get VLC working http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=61680 You need to know this for one of the channels: Virtual channel 116.3 Physical channel 116 subchannel 3 Freq 747MHz SID 3 NID 0 TID 0 PMT PID 4095 PCR PID 256 Those last two numbers are often 2752 etc. type numbers. I couldn't get vlc to work though

2012-02-21, 03:28 PM	#84
martinmonette Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 6	Cool ill try this, cause I couldn't find any mentions of what type of signal encoding the tuner could read, just that it can record in mpeg2.

2012-02-22, 04:02 PM	#86
jmac698 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 53	My listing is in fact missing a few channels, for some reason my computer scan didn't pick them up. I also get silver screen and a few more.

2012-02-22, 06:06 PM	#87
Doppelganger399 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Marystown, NL Posts: 482	I scanned mine I don't get any HD I do get about 45 channels(not counting galaxy ch)

2012-02-22, 06:59 PM	#88
denben73 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Timmins, ON Posts: 817	I should have mentioned in my post from yesterday that was using my HVR-1800 on my PC to get that list. When I use the QAM tuner on the TV, I get the music channels too.