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That's a good new!
It might wake up other network. Hopefully they are serious. |
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According to the linked release, this bid comes from CSR Investments, the company responsible for XM Satellite Radio in Canada, and controlled by John Bitove, who helped found the Toronto Raptors and launched Raptors TV. Of course, Raptors HD has yet to figure out how to broadcast any of their actual Raptors games in HD. In other words, I ain't holding my breath. |
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So John Bitove sees a business model for OTA DTV, yet all the established industry says no.
Maybe someone should invite John Bitove to visit us here at DHC for a chat. |
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I'd be curious to know what shows he would be carrying. The major networks have the Canadian rights to most of the US network programming so what would he put on the air?
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jvincent, that was my thought too. The only thing I can figure is this is a bandwith grab.
Get spectrum cheap and hold onto to it until its dear. Quote:
Finally, I don't understand why they call it National. Eight cities is significant but hardly what I would call National.
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One other point.
Eight cities and HD OTA. How many people will actually have all the equipment to watch this? Who is going to pay for it? Certainly not advertisers since the audience would be so small. The more I think about this the less sense it makes.... unless....... The government subsidizes it so they can give it away free to Canadians!
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From wikipedia,..
Rank in 2001 | Census Agglomeration | Population Estimate in 2005 1 Toronto CMA (Mississauga), Ontario 5,304,600 2 Montreal CMA (Laval), Quebec 3,635,842 3 Vancouver CMA (Surrey), British Columbia 2,208,300 4 Ottawa–Gatineau CMA, Ontario–Quebec 1,148,800 5 Calgary CMA, Alberta 1,060,300 6 Edmonton CMA, Alberta 1,016,000 7 Quebec City CMA (Lévis), Quebec 717,600 8 Winnipeg CMA, Manitoba 706,900 Total direct population: 15,798,342 Population of Canada in 2006 (est): 32,623,490 IMHO this does not qualify as national. No representation east of Quebec city,... the list goes on. |
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Assume 10% would eventually be capable of DTV OTA reception, that does not leave a lot of viewers to target advertising to.
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As a broadcaster the cable companies would be required to carry the local station and he is probably hoping that the DTH satellite companies would also carry some if not all of the stations.
It may also be a ploy to make the current broadcasters look bad when they say there is no market for OTA HD. |
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Winnipeg MB Waverly Heights
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winnipeg lacks any hd ota channels right now
propose winnipeg channels 2-omni tv 27-cbwt 28-global 46-ctv winnipeg 51-cbwft |
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"It may also be a ploy to make the current broadcasters look bad when they say there is no market for OTA HD."
I was thinking the same. Wonder if Jim Shaw put him up to this. |
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Hmm, I got a call from the PR company for HDTV Networks
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According to this person, these facts were presented in the CRTC's "THE FUTURE ENVIRONMENT FACING THE CANADIAN BROADCASTING SYSTEM" report issued yesterday. Did anyone read the report because in my review (which was cursory), I found nothing like this written. Can anyone help me here?
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Hugh, yes the report says we lag by about 4 years behind the U.S. OTA environment.
About your question regarding who has OTA gear: any new HDTV now has an integrated ATSC tuner. Some brands now include an indoor antenna like a Zenith Silver Sensor clone. Therefore any of those HDTV owners living in any of the major centres to be serviced by Digital OTA broadcasters would only need to hook up an indoor antenna, although there will obviously be benefits or needs for outdoor antennas in many cases. In the OTA Forum we get new DHCers posting about doing this almost every day now, including our dear Jake. A troubling thing about the aforementioned report is that about 50% of U.S. HDTV owners do not watch HD programming even when it is available free of charge OTA. To me that's a public service announcement project just waiting to happen, because its a case of people just not knowing about it. |
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