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Old 2007-05-05, 10:44 AM   #106
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Default Spoilers from Gossip Site

Apparently ABC is going to announce the end date for LOST so fans have a idea of closure, it is suppose to come over the next few weeks. Rumor is it may only go for another season or one and a half.

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/

Thank God too, as they are really ruining what was once a great show.

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Here's some spoilers which I felt needed to be posted in spoiler theories. This is due to the fact that I'm incapable of providing 3rd party corroboration with a reliable source, so I'll keep these here until they pan out after season 3.
- We'll find out that "Ben Linus", along with Richard Alpert and Jacob, were once workers for DHARMA who also doubled as human test subjects for various DHARMA projects on the island.

- We'll see the overthrow of DHARMA scientists by the workers led by Jacob, who was the instigator of the revolution and the saviour of Ben. Unfortunately, Jacob was unable to save Ben's family which we'll see.

- We'll come to understand that the mysterious (this name is a spoiler until it is told to us in an ep) wasn't the only traveler on the expedition flight to the island (hint: a male was with her who'll wash ashore later), but is in fact a spy of the DHARMA Initiative who's come to investigate exactly what happened on the island.

- The triggers for her visit were the meltdown of the Swan Station and the loss of contact with the Flame Station. A series of "secure" codes had to be input from the Flame to give DHARMA the green light that everything was fine, and to continue the food drops the same way the numbers had to be input in the Swan. The Others (hostiles) were successful keeping up appearances with Mikhail's help until Locke destroyed it.

- Cerberus, aka "The Smoke Monster" was a DHARMA experiment in both nanotechnology and neural networking which was used to guard the perimeter of various stations intuitively, but was damaged during the purge of DHARMA controllers, It has since gone rogue and become self aware.

- The "Others" as we've come to know and love (or hate) are truly the good guys who gained their own freedom and were actively attempting to reverse the effects of experiments performed on them by DHARMA, and the effects of the island on unprotected humans until Flight 815 interrupted them.

- Ben confides in Locke that they were basically slaves to DHARMA and they must keep up the ruse that DHARMA is still in control or they will all die from a common enemy. Jacob is the head "inmate" who orchestrated the revolution, and who remains hidden in plain sight but is still the one they must answer to.

- We find out that Penelope Widmore has been a member of DHARMA all along, and the station in Antarctica is run by DHARMA. Desmond has a vision of Penelope which is frightening and reveals new, truthful memories about how they really met at the monastery.


- Ben dies in the finale along with a few Others, as does Kate and Sayid. Sawyer and most of the Losties blame Jack and Juliet for Kate and Sayid's deaths due to his plan. Jack is forced to go with the surviving Others, and we see Tom by his side as he protects his new leader. From the sky we see images of the island as if from the viewpoint of a coming aircraft. It seems DHARMA has sent someone (or something) to the island and it's not nice.

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Old 2007-05-07, 08:04 AM   #107
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Default Producers of "LOST" set end date for series finale

Official, 48 episodes left:

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/article/urn..._hKUPuFZD6o9EF
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Old 2007-05-08, 02:10 AM   #108
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And then, finally, the show will be re-named LaST.
Sorry, couldn't resist

I've been watching the show on and off and have to admit that as much as I like most of the characters, the scenery(in glorious Hi-Def) and many actors
(mmm, Evengeline Lilly....) - it's infuriating how inconsistent the show is.
So much potential and so badly wasted.
I'm sure it will be missed by many, but if the creators couldn't maintain the momentum of the first season, then maybe it's better that it burns and crashes while its fans still care.
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Old 2007-05-08, 07:57 AM   #109
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Its a great series exept for the filler episodes, the last couple episodes definitely kept me glued to the tube.
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Old 2007-05-09, 01:51 AM   #110
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Crap - that's still TWO full seasons!!

I was hoping that at most, they'd do one more season. Even now, they're running low on story ideas and inserting a lot of fluff and filler; I predict 15 or so more good episodes that actually further the over-riding plot, and 33 fluffers (use that term however you choose ).
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Old 2007-05-09, 10:24 AM   #111
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I'm willing to give the writers/producers the benefit of the doubt here. Unlike some here, I haven't found there to be that many "filler" episodes or a significant drop-off in the quality of the episodes. Even when these filler episodes do come up I still enjoy the show.

At first I though 48 seemed like a lot...but hey, I say bring it on! Still one of the best shows on network TV (as far as I'm concerned). If they can keep it up for 48 more episodes all the better!
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Old 2007-05-10, 02:27 AM   #112
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I still don't think most people get it ... the Island and the story behind the Island is really irrelevant. It is just a vehicle. The series is all about the characters. And in that sense I think the writers are doing a great job. I am finding each character fascinating as we gradually learn more and more about them.

If people are looking for mystery and story development watch another program! If you are looking for good character development then LOST is the program to watch.
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Old 2007-05-10, 12:21 PM   #113
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If people are looking for mystery and story development watch another program! If you are looking for good character development then LOST is the program to watch.
I would argue that there is sufficient mystery to keep me engaged each week. You can only sustain mystery for so long and then it dissipates; credit the Lost writers for taking risks and going in some risky directions, killing off main characters, etc. That said, I agree that Lost is probably one of the best mainline cable TV shows in terms of character development and story-telling, which, for me, represents the best energy of this show.
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Old 2007-05-10, 06:38 PM   #114
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I still don't think most people get it ... the Island and the story behind the Island is really irrelevant. It is just a vehicle. The series is all about the characters. And in that sense I think the writers are doing a great job. I am finding each character fascinating as we gradually learn more and more about them.

If people are looking for mystery and story development watch another program! If you are looking for good character development then LOST is the program to watch.
Irrelevant? Gotta disagree entirely. In my opinion, the Island, Dharma, and the mystery are part and parcel of the show.

Take out the character development, and the show isn't as good. I can agree on that point. But to say the mystery of the Island is irrelevant? Not a chance. Case in point, the stuff at the beginning of the this season was some of the weakest. "Who will Kate choose?" Multiple episodes about that are boring compared to other Lost episodes because it's a storyline that can happen on any show, in any setting.

I do watch Lost for mystery and story development. That's what hooked me in the first place. I agree that character development is important. I think you're missing the point that the Island is a character too. The writers have a rich palette at their disposal given the premise of Lost. Ignoring that palette makes for a bland picture. What's the point of having them on a strange island if you're going to ignore the strangeness of the island?

Also agreed that mystery can be difficult to sustain. That's why it's important an end date has been set. They could keep on developing characters until the cows come home. The producers wanted an end date though, to keep the mystery part of the story. That in itself says the mystery is relevant.

Mixing it all together is what makes Lost a quality program. It remains a show I watch each week. At least until they start ignoring the mystery and back story of the Island.
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Old 2007-05-10, 10:15 PM   #115
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I like the idea of 3 seasons of 16 shows, more like HBO.
I'm still 3/4 weeks behind (they just found the helicopter pilot...so thats where the chick from Vegas ended up!), but I'm liking where the show is going.

Don't forget, the season finale is 2 hours as well!!
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Old 2007-05-14, 07:38 PM   #116
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In many ways, and I think some of the first season DVD commentary said this. The island is a character as much as John, Jack or anyone else. I will say though... John is my favourite and I hope they keep him around right up until the end or near the end.
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Old 2007-05-15, 12:08 PM   #117
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Didn't see anyone mention the fact that the native inhabitants don't age (the one that recruited Juliette for example) and they purged the Dharma-folk with Ben's help. Pretty big "Holy Crap" there.
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Old 2007-05-15, 05:25 PM   #118
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Will it even last 3 seasons with the constant decrease in ratings?
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Didn't see anyone mention the fact that the native inhabitants don't age (the one that recruited Juliette for example) and they purged the Dharma-folk with Ben's help. Pretty big "Holy Crap" there.
It's more likely that he has been cloned. Like "Dolly the Sheep". Remember they are studying reproduction and child birth on the island. Cloning of farm animals is a reality already. So it's not that much of a stretch to think the recruiter for Juliette was a clone.

I thought at first that he didn't age as well. But the clone idea makes a lot more sense wouldn't you agree. A little less of a "Holy Crap" I'm afraid.
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Old 2007-05-15, 10:43 PM   #120
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Cloning maybe but why all the focus on failed pregnancies if cloning was working. Plus the hostiles seemed pretty organized (and white) when Dharma arrived. Black Rock slaves maybe. All good stuff if you ask me.
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