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[Brent McKee]

Originally Posted by BradF

roadkill?...

Drive-In Classics
Scream
Mystery
Bravo
Silver Screen Classics
Lone Star
MoviePix
?
?

Is it fair to say that all these channels, and probably more, will be rendered effectively obsolete, by the introduction of TCM? The CAB must be watching in horror.

Someone has answered this already but I'd like to go a bit further (bear in mind I'm a Shaw subscriber):
Drive-In Classics - maybe useless but probably safe because it is showing cheesy movies of the sort TCM rarely shows.
Scream - safe niche
Mystery - doesn't show that many movies anyway (although how they're able to show Andromeda on a Mystery channel is a mystery
Bravo - there's already been some shift away from classic movies here; they'll be hurt by having commercials, helped if they can work with their artistic production niche.
Silver Screen Classics - never seen it but by reputation, dead as a door nail.
Lonestar - like Mystery doesn't show that many movies, certainly fewer than they did six months ago. Lots of old TV shows though.

I confess, as someone who now has TCM I feel sorry for people who would like to have it but whose cable/satellite provider says there's no demand for it.

[BradF]

Someone has answered this already but...

Hi Brent. All answers are welcome... I was being provocative when I questioned whether those channels would be rendered "effectively obsolete". There is no expectation that any of them would simply cease operations -- all of them are "safe" in that regard. But I do see them losing audience.

I meant to imply that many of these Canadian speciality channels are a joke as to content and commitment, and, as I look over TCM's schedule for the coming few months, I see it will offer Canadian subscribers superior fare in every genre.

[thenewdc]

I must admit i'm envious of you guys that have it now. I wish Rogers would have taken the plunge first and offered it up to its customers. Who know what their plans are regarding TCM at this point. TCM was always on my wish list of services. I think the best way for Rogers to offer it in their tier 2 is to replace Headline news with TCM and offer it, since its in the same tier as Family Channel. They could just put Headline News in the Digital news package. Very simple for them.

[BradF]

Yes, as a Rogers customer myself, I'm feeling quite deprived at this point. An e-mail response I got yesterday was encouraging though.

The rights issue problem is unfortunate. I notice that Yojimbo and some other foreign films, have been stripped from the Canadian schedule. That hurts.

TCM has some anime movies, like Spirited Away and Porco Rosso, scheduled for January; now I wonder about the status of those.

[jeff1960]

It's now on ch. 35 in Saskatoon. HGTV got moved down to 16. Spike got moved up to 30. TLN got bumped to 65. I can't remember what was on 65 . . . and I don't know where it got moved to.

My head hurts!

[Brent McKee]

Originally Posted by jeff1960

It's now on ch. 35 in Saskatoon. HGTV got moved down to 16. Spike got moved up to 30. TLN got bumped to 65. I can't remember what was on 65 . . . and I don't know where it got moved to.

My head hurts!

It is a bit headache inducing!

65 was Canadian Learning Television, now on 74. If it were a serious educational channel, I'd rather see it moved to analog where more people could see it, with the rather abysmal TalkTV moved to digital, but that's just my opinion.

[bob0082]

you can find movie line-up for TCM , Position 539 on SC at
http://www.turnerclassicmovies.com/M...108604,00.html

[james99]

For those not familiar with TCM, a few things to look forward to:

31 days of Oscar. The entire month of March is dedicated to Oscar winning/nominated movies.

Memorial Day weekend features several days of 24/7 war movies.

[Nanuuk]

I've watched a bit of TCM and have to say I've enjoyed it so far. Now if Shaw coudl also bag TNT they might be onto something!

[saskatoondavid]

Talk tv next year will be mtv canada! Thank Heaven! Hope they don't F**K that up!! In regard to TCM, bravo for giving us something new, everyone south of border already had! Here's hoping more follows, and other providers get the chance to enjoy to!

[thenewdc]

I think its good that we are not getting a watered down version of TCM here, since most of the U.S. and Canadian Schedules are identical. This proves that if a U.S. cable station really wants access to the Canadian market that they can get the rights necessary, at least for most of their product. Hopefully the Crtc will license a few more popular stations like TNT, USA, F/X, Boomerang, Hallmark, and a few others.

[james99]

I loaded both schedules and did a comparison and found 62 movies showing in the US and not in Canada, that's about 2/day or roughly 15%. Here's a list of what's not playing in Canada during November.

A Child Is Waiting (1963)
Chaplin Today: Modern Times (2003)
Comanche (1956)
Cowboy (1958)
Dead End (1937)
Dear Mr. Gable (1968)
Escapade (1955)
F for Fake (1976)
Father Goose (1964)
Foul Play (1978)
Guys And Dolls (1955)
H.M. Pulham, Esq. (1941)
Hangmen Also Die (1943)
Hell is for Heroes (1962)
How To Murder Your Wife (1965)
I Married A Witch (1942)
Jour Se Leve, Le (1939)
Kameradschaft (1931) .
Legend of the Lost (1957)
Lon Chaney: A Thousand Faces (2000)
Modern Times (1936)
Mother India (1957)
My Man Godfrey (1936)
Nothing Sacred (1937)
Notorious (1946)
Operation Petticoat (1959)
Orson Welles: The Tragedy of Othello, The Moor of Venice (1952)
Penny Serenade (1941)
Play it Again, Sam (1972)
Portrait of Jennie (1948)
Private Screenings: Jane Powell (1995)
Rebecca (1940)
Road to Bali (1952)
Rosalie (1937)
Scaramouche (1923)
Sounder (1972)
Spanish Earth (1937)
Stage Door Canteen (1943)
Stella Dallas (1937)
Sunset Boulevard (1950)
The Adventures of Prince Achmed (1927)
The Bridge At Remagen (1969)
The Hitch-Hiker (1953)
The Hunchback Of Notre Dame (1923)
The Last Command (1955)
The Lost World (1925)
The Man From Laramie (1955)
The Misfits (1961)
The Phantom of the Opera (1925).
The Spiral Staircase (1945)
The Story of G.I. Joe (1945)
The Thief of Bagdad (1940)
These Three (1936)
Thunder Road (1958)
Thundering Hoofs (1941)
To Be or Not to Be (1942)
To Catch a Thief (1955)
Tomorrow The World (1944)
Topper (1937)
Vogues Of 1938 (1937)
Yojimbo (1961)
You Only Live Once (1937)

[derekp]

What does "subscribers to english or bilingual service" mean? Isn't that everybody? Confused....

[thenewdc]

How about the movies playing on the Canadian Feed, but not on the U.S. feed?

[james99]

These are the movies that are being shown instead (available in Canada in November but not showing in the US in November but are available in the USA).

A Guy Named Joe (1943)
Across To Singapore (1928)
All The Fine Young Cannibals (1960)
Bombardier (1943)
Brother Orchid (1940)
Cartoon Alley #17 (2005)
China Clipper (1936)
Conflict (1945)
Cry Havoc (1943)
Dark Victory (1939)
Davy (1957)
Days Of Glory (1944)
Deadline At Dawn (1946)
Deep In My Heart (1954)
Designing Woman (1957)
Desperate Search (1953)
Don't Bet On Blondes (1935)
Executive Suite (1954)
G-Men (1935)
Keep Your Powder Dry (1945)
Knights Of The Round Table (1953)
Lady Of The Tropics (1939) .
Lucky Night (1939)
MGM Parade Show #16 (1955)
Mr. and Mrs. Smith (1941)
Mr. Lucky (1943)
Night And Day (1946)
None but the Lonely Heart (1944)
Old Acquaintance (1943)
Pat And Mike (1952)
Primrose Path (1940)
Rachel And The Stranger (1948)
Rhapsody (1954)
Scaramouche (1952)
Sergeant York (1941)
Show Boat (1936)
SOME OF THE BEST - 1949 (1949)
Stars In My Crown (1950)
Strange Cargo (1940)
The Body Snatcher (1945)
The Charge Of The Light Brigade (1936)
The Great Lie (1941)
The Legend Of Lylah Clare (1968)
The Lusty Men (1952)
The Man With A Cloak (1951)
The Night Of The Iguana (1964)
The Thin Man (1934)
The Wind And The Lion (1975)
The Yearling (1946)
The Youngest Profession (1943)
They Won't Believe Me (1947)
Thousands Cheer (1943)
Thundering Hoofs (1941)
Till The Clouds Roll By (1946)
Top Hat (1935)
Undercurrent (1946)
Virginia City (1940)
Watch On The Rhine (1943)
Waterloo Bridge (1940)
Without Reservations (1946)
Ziegfeld Girl (1941)