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StanleySparker · 2007-01-31, 01:12 PM

I definitely felt the salt being poured in the wounds while I tried to watch that newspiece last night. Absolutely disgusting. Global has no shame whatsoever.

davethehelper · 2007-01-31, 01:23 PM

Simple fact, get rid of Sim-subbing and you will lose ALL OTA channels since they will have no way to support themselves.

99gecko · 2007-01-31, 01:32 PM

Thats where the OTA broadcasters demand for Fee-For-Carriage comes into play. I believe to qualify for Tier 1 BDU distribution there is an OTA pre-requisite.

hugh · 2007-01-31, 02:12 PM

noaa2000, this is a rant thread not a slander or flame thread. Its one thing to hate the institution that the CRTC has become (hence the thread) but calling other Canadians communists and suckers is trolling and rude.

Anyone using this kind of language when discussing other members or Canadians will have their accounts de-activated.

This may be a rant thread but civility is still expected.

StanleySparker · 2007-01-31, 02:40 PM

We'd still get the American OTA channels.

noaa2000 · 2007-01-31, 10:57 PM

The Canadian OTA channels would survive.I still believe that even without simsubs most Canadians would prefer to watch the Canadian channel over the American one which to me is only the natural thing to do.Years ago in the 1960s when cable & satellite TV wasn't here,Canadian OTA channels did all right without the help of the government & they would still do all right now even with the 500 channel universe that we live in today.Global and CTV
are simply just afraid to compete in the 500 channel universe,so they run to the government for protection.They want to keep that huge profit from simsubbing instead of making an concerted effort into creating good quality Canadian programming.If the Americans and the British are able to created quality home grown shows for their domestic audience,certainly with the pool of talented persons this nation has,the same thing can be done here.

noaa2000 · 2007-02-01, 09:57 AM

If I have offended any member by my recent comments then please accept my sincere apology.My rage against the CRTC can at times get the best of me.

shabbs · 2007-02-04, 07:46 PM

Get your RANT on! What bugs me the most about all of this simsub/misdub/simulcast whatever crap and the CRTC is that they just don't seem to realize what we are all complaining about. I've complained numerous times to the CRTC and others (Rogers, Global) but we all get the same stock answer about how they pride themselves in providing the best quality HD etc... yadda yadda yadda... *puke*. Are they even monitoring what the broadcasters are putting out? If they are, they must be watching it on really old 14" CRTs with one speaker to judge the quality of the broadcast. I don't think they realize how much of a difference some people experience with 110" screens and ultra hi-fi systems.

There. Done.

Cheers.

StanleySparker · 2007-02-04, 09:11 PM

No kidding. I can't believe still that Rogers told me they can't monitor simsubs and have no control over them. What pathetic liars. Pathetic. If they see an inferior simsub, they are supposed to stop it.

DLPAddict · 2007-02-04, 09:22 PM

That's it......I'm buying a STB!!

Thanks to Global and the CRTC

They simsub CBS Seattle today for the Superbowl!!!
Usually they never simsub the signal from the west...ever!

They did it today I was prepared to watch some great commercial but nooooo!!!
I have to watch the dreadful commercials from this side of the border

Usual suspect Crapy Tire, Global news update(20 time every hours) etc.....

I'm so pissed that the next time the Samsung STB is available I'm runnig down to Buffalo to buy it!!!

Sorry for the rant but I'm thru with this Communist thinking.

Have nice day all

StanleySparker · 2007-02-04, 09:23 PM

Say it like it is DLPAddict!
We all feel your pain!

stampeder · 2007-02-04, 09:24 PM

You didn't say what kind of STB. There are many kinds, but I'm guessing you mean an ATSC STB for OTA channels from Buffalo?

DLPAddict · 2007-02-04, 09:30 PM

Sorry I'was tooooo

The STB is the Samsung HTB 260 if I'm right?

Because this piece of equipment is not available in the great white north

I will have to talk to my land lord to if I can the proper equipment (antenna,pole,wires etc...)
I live in a basement apartment (Warden/Kingston rd) area so hopefully they (land lord) will be OK with this.

stampeder · 2007-02-04, 09:33 PM

I thought that's what you meant. In actuality the term STB is used all through Home Theatre to describe devices of all sorts that are Set Top Boxes.

Back to the topic.

DLPAddict · 2007-02-04, 09:37 PM

I forgot..

I'm pretty sure a lot of my friends in Quebec city would be pissed tonight too!

Because a radio station (I listen through the net)was telling everybody to call Videotron cable and ask for the American package (a tech told them they would not simsub these channel) that include all the Seattle channel without simsub

I'm pretty sure Global did the same down there with the braodcast/simsub

2007-01-31, 02:12 PM	#139
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2007-02-01, 09:57 AM	#142
noaa2000 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 58	If I have offended any member by my recent comments then please accept my sincere apology.My rage against the CRTC can at times get the best of me. Last edited by noaa2000; 2007-02-01 at 10:08 AM.

2007-02-04, 07:46 PM	#143
shabbs Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Toronto, Rogers Cable, Cisco 8642HD PVR Posts: 2,216	Get your RANT on! What bugs me the most about all of this simsub/misdub/simulcast whatever crap and the CRTC is that they just don't seem to realize what we are all complaining about. I've complained numerous times to the CRTC and others (Rogers, Global) but we all get the same stock answer about how they pride themselves in providing the best quality HD etc... yadda yadda yadda... puke. Are they even monitoring what the broadcasters are putting out? If they are, they must be watching it on really old 14" CRTs with one speaker to judge the quality of the broadcast. I don't think they realize how much of a difference some people experience with 110" screens and ultra hi-fi systems. There. Done. Cheers. __________________ Sharp AQUOS Quattron LC-70LE732U + 8642HD \| Panasonic TC-P42U1 1080p plasma + 4642HD \| BlackBerry Z10 / PlayBook

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2007-01-31, 01:12 PM	#136
StanleySparker Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 273	I definitely felt the salt being poured in the wounds while I tried to watch that newspiece last night. Absolutely disgusting. Global has no shame whatsoever.

2007-01-31, 01:23 PM	#137
davethehelper Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 23	Simple fact, get rid of Sim-subbing and you will lose ALL OTA channels since they will have no way to support themselves.

2007-01-31, 01:32 PM	#138
99gecko Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Markham, ON Posts: 2,524	Thats where the OTA broadcasters demand for Fee-For-Carriage comes into play. I believe to qualify for Tier 1 BDU distribution there is an OTA pre-requisite.

2007-01-31, 02:40 PM	#140
StanleySparker Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 273	We'd still get the American OTA channels.

2007-01-31, 10:57 PM	#141
noaa2000 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Brunswick Posts: 58	The Canadian OTA channels would survive.I still believe that even without simsubs most Canadians would prefer to watch the Canadian channel over the American one which to me is only the natural thing to do.Years ago in the 1960s when cable & satellite TV wasn't here,Canadian OTA channels did all right without the help of the government & they would still do all right now even with the 500 channel universe that we live in today.Global and CTV are simply just afraid to compete in the 500 channel universe,so they run to the government for protection.They want to keep that huge profit from simsubbing instead of making an concerted effort into creating good quality Canadian programming.If the Americans and the British are able to created quality home grown shows for their domestic audience,certainly with the pool of talented persons this nation has,the same thing can be done here.

2007-02-04, 09:11 PM	#144
StanleySparker Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 273	No kidding. I can't believe still that Rogers told me they can't monitor simsubs and have no control over them. What pathetic liars. Pathetic. If they see an inferior simsub, they are supposed to stop it.

2007-02-04, 09:22 PM	#145
DLPAddict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto,Ontario Posts: 469	That's it......I'm buying a STB!! Thanks to Global and the CRTC They simsub CBS Seattle today for the Superbowl!!! Usually they never simsub the signal from the west...ever! They did it today I was prepared to watch some great commercial but nooooo!!! I have to watch the dreadful commercials from this side of the border Usual suspect Crapy Tire, Global news update(20 time every hours) etc..... I'm so pissed that the next time the Samsung STB is available I'm runnig down to Buffalo to buy it!!! Sorry for the rant but I'm thru with this Communist thinking. Have nice day all

2007-02-04, 09:23 PM	#146
StanleySparker Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 273	Say it like it is DLPAddict! We all feel your pain!

2007-02-04, 09:24 PM	#147
stampeder OTA Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St) Posts: 23,338	You didn't say what kind of STB. There are many kinds, but I'm guessing you mean an ATSC STB for OTA channels from Buffalo?

2007-02-04, 09:30 PM	#148
DLPAddict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto,Ontario Posts: 469	Sorry I'was tooooo The STB is the Samsung HTB 260 if I'm right? Because this piece of equipment is not available in the great white north I will have to talk to my land lord to if I can the proper equipment (antenna,pole,wires etc...) I live in a basement apartment (Warden/Kingston rd) area so hopefully they (land lord) will be OK with this.

2007-02-04, 09:33 PM	#149
stampeder OTA Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St) Posts: 23,338	I thought that's what you meant. In actuality the term STB is used all through Home Theatre to describe devices of all sorts that are Set Top Boxes. Back to the topic.

2007-02-04, 09:37 PM	#150
DLPAddict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto,Ontario Posts: 469	I forgot.. I'm pretty sure a lot of my friends in Quebec city would be pissed tonight too! Because a radio station (I listen through the net)was telling everybody to call Videotron cable and ask for the American package (a tech told them they would not simsub these channel) that include all the Seattle channel without simsub I'm pretty sure Global did the same down there with the braodcast/simsub