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hugh · 2011-11-05, 09:54 AM

I agree David. The quality depends on the quality of the components and the quality of the manufacturer, not the country of origin.

Khorn · 2011-11-08, 02:31 PM

FWIW I use "Cardas" cables, interconnects and power cords throughout all my system except for the external (I use Cardas internally) speaker cables. I am quite satisfied.

Jake · 2011-11-08, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Why Cardas: Cardas’ cable design incorporates, Golden Ratio, Constant Q, Cross-Field, pure copper Litz, conductor technology.

Hmmm. Serpentes oil anyone?

David Susilo · 2011-11-08, 08:22 PM

Use what you want, if you hear or see the difference, that's fine. If you don't, that's fine too. Everybody's perception is different.

In terms of golden ratio, constant q, etc, those are just marketing speak.

I don't insinuate that Cardas cable is good or bad though. I have no experience with that brand.

ScooterMcTavish · 2011-11-26, 09:05 AM

Just feel a need to publish this link again to Roger Russell's website. He is an audio engineer who designed very expensive speakers for McIntosh and is the model definition of credibility:

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

Funny though that he does use Cardas wire in the array towers he designed. Mind you, at least he admits it has nothing to do with sound, and everything to do with the questions he gets from the $$$ people who buy his speakers.

rdrr2008 · 2012-03-30, 08:28 PM

Interesting article

http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics...es/706076.html

David Susilo · 2012-03-30, 08:32 PM

That's a re-write of a very very VERY old article from several years ago.

copernico · 2012-04-25, 09:22 AM

Thanks for this thread, I went through most of it and now I'm a different person

It surprised me to know that component and coaxial cables are the same thing but the colour!

Cheers

JamesK · 2012-04-25, 11:45 AM

^^^^
Other than HDMI, DVI, optical and speaker wire, just about all the cables used to connect devices are coaxial. The component cables are just like the composite, except there are 3 used, instead of one. There's no technical reason why you couldn't use 3 separate composite cables, in place of the 3 colour component cables. You could even use the same cable as used for the antenna connection, provided the proper connectors were used. Cables used for audio are generally not suitable for video or RF, even though they are "coaxial". Coaxial simply means the two conductors share the same axis, unlike speaker wire pairs.

57 · 2012-04-25, 01:17 PM

Here's the FAQ on Cables & Connections for those not familiar with the terms and quality issues.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=76085

Wayne · 2012-06-06, 09:48 AM

Here is what you really need for pwer cables for all your devices - make sure to read the reviews carefully.

http://****************/AudioQuest-N...8816930&sr=1-2

The starred out bits above are www . Amazon . Com

caper_26 · 2012-06-06, 01:03 PM

that link doesnt work

tandem · 2012-06-06, 01:58 PM

to www amazon dot com add: /AudioQuest-NRG-2-AC-power-cord/dp/B0006VPP12/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339005433&sr=8-1

Why would anyone believe that a 3 foot power cable, of any quality beyond that which the manufacturer of the AV gear includes, would actually make a difference that can be heard? But for those that believe, there's a $125 dollar three foot standard equipment cable for them to purchase.

caper_26 · 2012-06-06, 07:33 PM

LOL ! "Only 2 left in stock--order soon."!!
You will love this one. read the reviews, seriously: from amazon: /Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM
and terminated speaker cables: same www site: /AudioQuest-K2-terminated-speaker-cable/dp/B000J36XR2
again, the reviews are hilarious!!!

rdrr2008 · 2013-03-11, 01:55 PM

came across the below post at another forum, comments, discuss

Is there a difference in HDMI cables?

Over the weekend i decided to do a little test of my own b/c i was tired of the back and forth about whether or not high priced HDMI's are worth it over cheap 10 dollar versions. I used sum Wally world HDMI $10, and a Audiophiles cinnamon HDMI, which isn't really anything super special, $70. I tried my cheaper quality Samsung 60hz LCD TV and my bigger 240hz Samsung LCD with both cables for about 5 min. each, watching Planet Earth on bluray with fast moving to very slow moving scenes.

Let me say this first...THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. I had a friend watch with me just to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. We started out with the Wally World one and ya it was a good picture don't get me wrong. But after looking at it hooked up with the Audiphiles HDMI we both immediately looked at eachother and said holy S*#t. The picture was so much crisper, cleaner, and more vivid, it seemed. We hooked up the cheap one again and it was like night and day to me. Everything seemed flat and dull. I am sold that it DOES matter which HDMI you have. If you don't believe me that's cool but try it for yourself and really study the details of the picture not just looking at the image as a whole.

2011-11-05, 09:54 AM	#346
hugh Member #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 47,492	I agree David. The quality depends on the quality of the components and the quality of the manufacturer, not the country of origin. __________________ As of January 2012, I am no longer the owner of the Digital Home website. If you have questions about the operation of the site, please contact VSAdmin. For personal inquiries contact me at the Hugh Thompson website.

2011-11-08, 08:22 PM	#349
David Susilo Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: in my home theatre Posts: 3,410	Use what you want, if you hear or see the difference, that's fine. If you don't, that's fine too. Everybody's perception is different. In terms of golden ratio, constant q, etc, those are just marketing speak. I don't insinuate that Cardas cable is good or bad though. I have no experience with that brand. __________________ THX, ISF, Control4 Certified Professional; CEDIA Trainer

2011-11-26, 09:05 AM	#350
ScooterMcTavish Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sunny Manitoba Posts: 375	Just feel a need to publish this link again to Roger Russell's website. He is an audio engineer who designed very expensive speakers for McIntosh and is the model definition of credibility: http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm Funny though that he does use Cardas wire in the array towers he designed. Mind you, at least he admits it has nothing to do with sound, and everything to do with the questions he gets from the $$$ people who buy his speakers. __________________ H/K AVR 1600, SD RTS-P100, Mission 670i, Paradigm C-200, CV Sub-120, Shaw Direct 630, LG 50" Plasma, PS2, PS3

2012-03-30, 08:28 PM	#351
rdrr2008 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 47	The Ten Biggest Lies In Audio Interesting article http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics...es/706076.html

2012-03-30, 08:32 PM	#352
David Susilo Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: in my home theatre Posts: 3,410	That's a re-write of a very very VERY old article from several years ago. __________________ THX, ISF, Control4 Certified Professional; CEDIA Trainer

2011-11-08, 02:31 PM	#347
Khorn Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North York (West Lansing), Toronto Posts: 1,082	FWIW I use "Cardas" cables, interconnects and power cords throughout all my system except for the external (I use Cardas internally) speaker cables. I am quite satisfied.

2012-04-25, 09:22 AM	#353
copernico Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Halifax, NS Posts: 37	Thanks for this thread, I went through most of it and now I'm a different person It surprised me to know that component and coaxial cables are the same thing but the colour! Cheers

2012-04-25, 11:45 AM	#354
JamesK Veteran Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 5,039	^^^^ Other than HDMI, DVI, optical and speaker wire, just about all the cables used to connect devices are coaxial. The component cables are just like the composite, except there are 3 used, instead of one. There's no technical reason why you couldn't use 3 separate composite cables, in place of the 3 colour component cables. You could even use the same cable as used for the antenna connection, provided the proper connectors were used. Cables used for audio are generally not suitable for video or RF, even though they are "coaxial". Coaxial simply means the two conductors share the same axis, unlike speaker wire pairs.

2012-04-25, 01:17 PM	#355
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,296	Here's the FAQ on Cables & Connections for those not familiar with the terms and quality issues. http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=76085 __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2012-06-06, 09:48 AM	#356
Wayne Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Scarboro Posts: 5,568	Here is what you really need for pwer cables for all your devices - make sure to read the reviews carefully. http://****************/AudioQuest-N...8816930&sr=1-2 The starred out bits above are www . Amazon . Com

2012-06-06, 01:03 PM	#357
caper_26 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cape Breton, NS Posts: 218	that link doesnt work __________________ 47LG55\|RX-V565\|HD DVR\|PS3\|Wii\|3XEnergy Take FPS\|2 VS\|2 X LCR\|DIY Trio12 X 2 RC-70x2\|RX-V863\|MA RS-w12 Sub

2012-06-06, 01:58 PM	#358
tandem Join Date: May 2012 Location: Vancouver Posts: 101	to www amazon dot com add: /AudioQuest-NRG-2-AC-power-cord/dp/B0006VPP12/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339005433&sr=8-1 Why would anyone believe that a 3 foot power cable, of any quality beyond that which the manufacturer of the AV gear includes, would actually make a difference that can be heard? But for those that believe, there's a $125 dollar three foot standard equipment cable for them to purchase.

2012-06-06, 07:33 PM	#359
caper_26 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cape Breton, NS Posts: 218	LOL ! "Only 2 left in stock--order soon."!! You will love this one. read the reviews, seriously: from amazon: /Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM and terminated speaker cables: same www site: /AudioQuest-K2-terminated-speaker-cable/dp/B000J36XR2 again, the reviews are hilarious!!! __________________ 47LG55\|RX-V565\|HD DVR\|PS3\|Wii\|3XEnergy Take FPS\|2 VS\|2 X LCR\|DIY Trio12 X 2 RC-70x2\|RX-V863\|MA RS-w12 Sub

2013-03-11, 01:55 PM	#360
rdrr2008 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 47	Is there a difference in HDMI cables? came across the below post at another forum, comments, discuss Is there a difference in HDMI cables? Over the weekend i decided to do a little test of my own b/c i was tired of the back and forth about whether or not high priced HDMI's are worth it over cheap 10 dollar versions. I used sum Wally world HDMI $10, and a Audiophiles cinnamon HDMI, which isn't really anything super special, $70. I tried my cheaper quality Samsung 60hz LCD TV and my bigger 240hz Samsung LCD with both cables for about 5 min. each, watching Planet Earth on bluray with fast moving to very slow moving scenes. Let me say this first...THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. I had a friend watch with me just to make sure my eyes didn't deceive me. We started out with the Wally World one and ya it was a good picture don't get me wrong. But after looking at it hooked up with the Audiphiles HDMI we both immediately looked at eachother and said holy S*#t. The picture was so much crisper, cleaner, and more vivid, it seemed. We hooked up the cheap one again and it was like night and day to me. Everything seemed flat and dull. I am sold that it DOES matter which HDMI you have. If you don't believe me that's cool but try it for yourself and really study the details of the picture not just looking at the image as a whole.

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