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Old 2005-11-06, 10:31 PM   #196
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Has anyone (especially in the Lower Mainland) tried out the ATSC tuner on the 50" A10? The Sony salesman told me that it has a built-in antenna and I would not require an external antenna to receive OTA broadcasts.
That's one of the funniest CSR misconceptions I've ever heard about ATSC tuners... built in and doesn't need an external antenna... hee hee... was that at a Sony Store? Ken, keep in touch with us in the BC thread in the OTA Forum.
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Old 2005-11-07, 07:30 AM   #197
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Before jumping my friend, read me well. I do not need a ATSC tuner since there is one built in in my 8300 cable box... No need to pay twice and I already have free programming on HDTV ( free with my basic cable). if you want to fool around with an external antenna in order to catch them without subscribing to a cable company, you are free to do so. Not my cup of tea. ATSC is in the cable box...
If you haven't tried HD OTA then you should consider it. The picture quality is noticeably better than the HD coming through either digital cable or satellite. This is probably because the OTA signal has not been compressed. The other thing that OTA gets you is local channels. Here in Windsor I get 7 OTA HD channels from Detroit all pulled in through the OTA tuner in my ExpressVu 9200 HD PVR.

As a side note the 9200 allows me to record an OTA channel plus two satellite channels all at the same time. I can also watch a previously recorded event while this is happening. Total of 28 HD channels from ExpressVu plus 7 OTA !!!
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Old 2005-11-07, 12:43 PM   #198
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salsationn, here's an omnibus answer to your questions about OTA: go back and read my post just like I've gone back and read yours. You will find that I happily (smiley included) provided a link to a post that will either answer most or all of your questions about OTA or point you to where that info is readily available here at DHC. This will save me lots of typing to answer your questions.

Just another thought: when you say something like ...you don't need an ATSC tuner... it doesn't cost anything to add a few more words of context like ...because you already have one... and then it will sound clearer and better informed.

Please keep your quotes of other posts down to minimal size too and Hugh will be happy.
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Old 2005-11-07, 08:17 PM   #199
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When it comes to HDMI, do the KDFE's only come with 1 HDMI slot? The reason why I'm asking is that I'm guessing you need one slot for the Rogers HD Box and one slot for your DVD player. Having not seen the back of a KDFE TV, I don't know how many slots they have. If there's only 1, what do you guys recommend doing, hooking up the DVD player via HDMI or the Cable box?
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Old 2005-11-07, 09:43 PM   #200
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That is easy. Why would you use HDMI for DVD (unless you have some prototype of Blue Ray DVD). The best one can give you only 480p so no brainer here.

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Old 2005-11-07, 10:03 PM   #201
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For all of you guys willing to do some investigation before buying KDEF50A10 here is the link to the TV's manual:
http://media-server.amazon.com/exec/...czMDkyLnBkZg==

I did some searching and found some US stores (they ship to Canada). They sell this model for little more than US$1,700 which is less than CAD2,000. Any advice for or against buying this way:

http://www.mpsuperstore.com/Electronics/discr185843.htm

http://www.electrodiscounts.com/Elec...discr26266.htm

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Old 2005-11-07, 11:59 PM   #202
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some things to note
1) shipping would be brutal
2) duty would be very high as well
3) if the online retailer uses UPS (which I would imagine they would) then you'd end up paying a 'brokerage' fee which would cost at least $200 on top of the duties etc.

I have no idea how the warrantee would translate either.
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Old 2005-11-08, 07:22 AM   #203
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I have no idea how the warrantee would translate either.
I don't think the warranty on a US set would be honoured in Canada.
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Old 2005-11-08, 07:48 AM   #204
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some things to note
1) shipping would be brutal
2) duty would be very high as well
3) if the online retailer uses UPS (which I would imagine they would) then you'd end up paying a 'brokerage' fee which would cost at least $200 on top of the duties etc.

I have no idea how the warrantee would translate either.
Why woudl there be Duty? Surely both Canada & US are NAFTA members so no duty? (I speak as a relatively new resident of Canada so forgive me if I'm asking a dumb question!). I understand there would be HST/GST whatever to pay but you'd pay that if you bought in Canada so no biggie. Getting your own quote from a courier company might be useful. Warranty would be the issue though.
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Old 2005-11-08, 07:56 AM   #205
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Another very good site to find the best US prices is the following: http://www.activeshopper.com

With shipping, you can buy that set for $168US which is $1944 canadian but you have to remember that there could be other charges such as custom fees, or brokerage fees and I'm not sure the warranty is valid in Canada. I'd check with Sony first.
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With shipping, you can buy that set for $168US which is $1944 canadian
That was $1628 US, not $168
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Old 2005-11-08, 10:27 AM   #207
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There should be no duty charges as the television is manufactured in North America. You will pay HST, GST, S&H, plus if UPS or FedEx is the courier you will likey pay brokerage fees.
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Old 2005-11-09, 05:26 PM   #208
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But some DVD players output in HDMI such as the Samsung 850.
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Old 2005-11-09, 08:51 PM   #209
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But some DVD players output in HDMI such as the Samsung 850.
True, but unless they are upconverting machines no use. Even than they just doubling signal which is not true HD. You cannot make a meat pie without meat; if you know what I mean. BTW recently I've seen a flood of these upconverting DVDs in FS. Has anyone tried them? How they look on a HD?
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Old 2005-11-10, 07:15 AM   #210
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The OPPO OPDV971H 720p/1080i upconverting DVD player is the one that's been getting all the rave reviews. I have not seen one.

http://www.oppodigital.com/
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