CFTO-DT Toronto: PSIP Data Messing Up Your Tuner?

Tom.F.1 · 2005-07-05, 06:15 PM

Has CFTO changed channels? I get it on 40-3? I heard they fixed the PSIP, but it doesn't show up on my set.
And on an earlier topic on this list, since i've done some work at the CN Tower; CKXT52, CKXT-DT66 & CFTO-DT40 share the same antenna.
CBLT-DT24 & CBLFT-DT20 share the same antenna as TVO19 & CBLFT25 analoge
CITY & CITY-DT share the same antenna at the top of the tower.

intrac · 2005-07-05, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom.F.1

Has CFTO changed channels? I get it on 40-3? I heard they fixed the PSIP, but it doesn't show up on my set.
And on an earlier topic on this list, since i've done some work at the CN Tower; CKXT52, CKXT-DT66 & CFTO-DT40 share the same antenna.
CBLT-DT24 & CBLFT-DT20 share the same antenna as TVO19 & CBLFT25 analoge
CITY & CITY-DT share the same antenna at the top of the tower.

CFTO-DT still comes in at 9-1 and 40-1. PSIP changes 40-1 to 9-1 in my set.

CenturyBreak · 2005-07-05, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom.F.1

Has CFTO changed channels? I get it on 40-3? I heard they fixed the PSIP, but it doesn't show up on my set.

Nope, PSIP hasn't been fixed yet: it's still on 40-3 rather than 9-1... I guess the engineers over in Agincourt are still playing the "I wonder what this button does???" game with the digi-cast software!

intrac · 2005-07-05, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CenturyBreak

Nope, PSIP hasn't been fixed yet: it's still on 40-3 rather than 9-1... I guess the engineers over in Agincourt are still playing the "I wonder what this button does???" game with the digi-cast software!

Not on my set -- when I tune in 40-1, it comes in, then changes to 9-1.
Same thing when I tune in 40-3, it comes in, then changes to 9-1.

CenturyBreak · 2005-07-05, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by intrac

Not on my set -- when I tune in 40-1, it comes in, then changes to 9-1.
Same thing when I tune in 40-3, it comes in, then changes to 9-1.

Unfortunately that's not the case for at least two of us here. I've rescanned a few times over the last week or so in the hopes that the PSIP will be refreshed, but I wasn't hopeful: when the PSIP was updated/corrected last month, it showed up on my T351 without rescanning. Basically, it's only 40-3 these days...

Anyone have an e-mail address for the CFTO engineering department, so we can inform them of the situation?

RASCL · 2005-07-05, 10:05 PM

CFTO is coming through on 40.3 on my T151.
40.1 and 40.2 locked in but no channel appears.

dsspredator · 2005-07-05, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RASCL

CFTO is coming through on 40.3 on my T151.

Same here.

CenturyBreak · 2005-07-06, 01:58 PM

Okay... make that "at least four of us"!

Call us the Sammy Brigade.

stampeder · 2005-07-06, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CenturyBreak

Okay... make that "at least four of us"!

Call us the Sammy Brigade.

See the Samsung ATSC Tuners thread and you'll find others with the same troubles with CFTO-DT, and if it looks like this is a Samsung tuner problem I'll merge this thread into that one.

So, are people with non-Sammy tuners having PSIP problems with CFTO-DT, such as remapping?

gmarsden · 2005-07-06, 03:57 PM

My Panny 42PX50 is doing the same thing with the internal ATSC tuner, CTV is 40-3.
My Sylvania STB maps it to 9.1.

- Greg

jeneral · 2005-07-06, 04:18 PM

Just like everyone else, my Sammy SIR-T151 has trouble locking on and it shows up as 40-3. My ATI HDTV Wonder remaps to 9-1 but I only get audio (no video). I hope they get this issue resolved soon.

HDTV101 · 2005-07-06, 04:54 PM

My SIR-T151 locks on it but it takes about 10 seconds.. first says "No signal" then it locks it in but I have to then step from 40-1 to 40-3 to get the picture. 40-1 and 40-2 have nothing on them. Why did they do this???? Seems this million dollar digital transmitter is just a new toy for them to play with.

stampeder · 2005-07-06, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gmarsden

My Panny 42PX50 is doing the same thing with the internal ATSC tuner, CTV is 40-3.
My Sylvania STB maps it to 9.1.

I would not be surprised if Panasonic (Matsushita Electric) buys their ATSC tuner modules from Samsung, which would explain your HDTV showing the same phenomena, but I could be wrong about that.

I'm still hoping for owners of other ATSC tuner brands to let us know if they too are having the CFTO-DT troubles.

As I say, if we can establish that this is a Samsung problem like the one talked about in the Samsung ATSC Tuners thread I'll merge this one into that one.

rob50312 · 2005-07-06, 05:43 PM

It comes in as 40-3 for me on both my samsung 151 and sanyo integrated tuner.It used to be 9-1 on both.I therefore think its cfto problem or error.

Tom.F.1 · 2005-07-06, 08:48 PM

Loosing signal on cfto now. it was 40-3 on my set. Signal dropped out completely, so i re-scanned. Now i don't get it at all.
All the other toronto stations are working at normal signal level.

2005-07-05, 06:15 PM	#1
Tom.F.1 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 1,732	CFTO-DT Toronto: PSIP Data Messing Up Your Tuner? Has CFTO changed channels? I get it on 40-3? I heard they fixed the PSIP, but it doesn't show up on my set. And on an earlier topic on this list, since i've done some work at the CN Tower; CKXT52, CKXT-DT66 & CFTO-DT40 share the same antenna. CBLT-DT24 & CBLFT-DT20 share the same antenna as TVO19 & CBLFT25 analoge CITY & CITY-DT share the same antenna at the top of the tower.

2005-07-06, 05:43 PM	#14
rob50312 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: derry + winston Mississauga Posts: 789	cfto-dt It comes in as 40-3 for me on both my samsung 151 and sanyo integrated tuner.It used to be 9-1 on both.I therefore think its cfto problem or error. __________________ samsung 151 ,attic cm4248 yagi uhf antenna ,cm 7775 preamp and ant. direct xg43 with winegard ap4700 and zenith hdr-230

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2005-07-05, 10:05 PM	#6
RASCL Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Port Credit, Ontario (near Toronto) Posts: 33	CFTO is coming through on 40.3 on my T151. 40.1 and 40.2 locked in but no channel appears.

2005-07-06, 01:58 PM	#8
CenturyBreak Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burlington, ON Posts: 216	Okay... make that "at least four of us"! Call us the Sammy Brigade.

2005-07-06, 03:57 PM	#10
gmarsden Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Burlington Posts: 117	My Panny 42PX50 is doing the same thing with the internal ATSC tuner, CTV is 40-3. My Sylvania STB maps it to 9.1. - Greg

2005-07-06, 04:18 PM	#11
jeneral Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Mississauga, ON Posts: 250	Just like everyone else, my Sammy SIR-T151 has trouble locking on and it shows up as 40-3. My ATI HDTV Wonder remaps to 9-1 but I only get audio (no video). I hope they get this issue resolved soon.

2005-07-06, 04:54 PM	#12
HDTV101 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,530	My SIR-T151 locks on it but it takes about 10 seconds.. first says "No signal" then it locks it in but I have to then step from 40-1 to 40-3 to get the picture. 40-1 and 40-2 have nothing on them. Why did they do this???? Seems this million dollar digital transmitter is just a new toy for them to play with.

2005-07-06, 08:48 PM	#15
Tom.F.1 Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ajax, Ontario Posts: 1,732	Loosing signal on cfto now. it was 40-3 on my set. Signal dropped out completely, so i re-scanned. Now i don't get it at all. All the other toronto stations are working at normal signal level.