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HDTV101 · 2006-08-19, 08:14 PM

Funny how I'm in Mississauga and could never pick up SUN-TV on channel 15. They must be using a directional antenna or the Niagara escarpment is in the way... one or the other.

026163 · 2006-08-19, 08:28 PM

hmm, thats weird. cuz there transmit from a 1000' tower in Stoney Creek, on top of the escarpment, which is actually SOUTHEAST of Hamilton, and therefore, they have to aim directly at Missisauga to reach a large portion of downtown hamilton....

who knows. The tower is a mere 15km from my channel master on my roof, so its an automatic 100% for me when the antenna is aimed anywhere in that general direction

i wonder if you'll have difficulty locking CHCH-DT when its up and running if you are unable to lock SunTV -15

rob50312 · 2006-08-19, 09:38 PM

They are directional and only half way up the tower.I have never received Sun Hamilton.Analog 15 from Buffalo always comes in.

HDTV101 · 2006-08-20, 01:37 PM

Rob, I see you're in my neck of the woods at Derry + Winston

Yes I get the Buffalo analog on 15 too, very weak signal, a religious station of some kind. SUN-TV out of Toronto comes booming in here on channel 66 so no need for them to send any channel 15 signal this way.

026163 · 2006-08-21, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTV101

I put together this list from the FCC site... I've never gone for any channels out of Cleveland,,, so I went to the FCC to see what would be the best channels to aim for. The ones I placed the ******* next to look like the most promising. Plus Aug 21st looks like the best time ever!
http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo.html

Freq Offset (NTSC analog TV only)
Call Channel | Service Status City State Country File Number Docket FacilityID ERP DA? HAAT RCAMSL RCAGL Latitude Longitude ASRN Licensee/Permittee

WKYC-TV 2 DT LIC CLEVELAND 8.0 kW

WKYC-TV 3 Z TV LIC CLEVELAND 93.3 kW

WEWS-TV 5 + TV LIC CLEVELAND 93.3 kW

WJW 8 + TV LIC CLEVELAND 236. kW

WEWS-TV 15 DT LIC CLEVELAND 870. kW *******

WVIZ 25 + TV LIC CLEVELAND 2140. kW DA

WJW 31 DT LIC CLEVELAND 625. kW *******

WRAP-CA 32 CA LIC CLEVELAND 6.37 kW

WQHS-TV 34 DT LIC CLEVELAND 525. kW DA *******

W35AX 35 CA LIC CLEVELAND 11.8 kW DA

WQHS-TV 61 Z TV LIC CLEVELAND 2000. kW UNIVISION

this list should be usefull tonight, does anybody have the detriot stations that are reachable too?

HDTV101 · 2006-08-22, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 026163

this list should be usefull tonight, does anybody have the detriot stations that are reachable too?

Oh yeah they were BOOMING it this morning! Even digital 41 was overtaking CFMT out of Toronto... something I never imagined could be possible...

Detroit DT 41... signal here overtakes CFMT analog in Toronto!

HDTV101 · 2006-08-22, 01:51 AM

HDTV101 · 2006-08-22, 01:52 AM

Yaamon · 2006-08-22, 09:12 AM

HDTV101 whoo that's great. Too bad I was not up at that time in the morning

and I was a bit lazy to turn my antenna west last night too.

Is that WJW from Cleveland?

026163 · 2006-08-22, 12:32 PM

I was rotating my antenna back and right at like 10:00PM last night and couldnt pull in anything. I figured the weather guys on that website were off tonight.

can it really take that long into the night before the channels come through? I thought once it gets dark, thats what u have for the night.

HDTV101 · 2006-08-23, 05:37 AM

While I was searching for Cleveland I was picking up a signal on digital channel 41. I fine tuned my antenna and in comes this new station I never heard of before. I looked up the station ID and what do you know it’s
WKBN-TV 41 DT CP YOUNGSTOWN OH US 700. kW

They’re still listed on the FCC's site as having a construction permit ‘CP’ so they are very new to the air on digital!

Youngstown shown on the map as YNG.

Main channel 27-1

Subchannel 27-2 has a LP Fox station.
WYFX-LP 62 - TX LIC YOUNGSTOWN OH US 25. kW

dsspredator · 2006-08-23, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HDTV101

While I was searching for Cleveland I was picking up a signal on digital channel 41.

That's amazing with CIII 41 in Toronto. I've locked WFMJ 21-1 (20) but that was before CBLT went live.

Try for Pittsburgh tonight (25, 48), they have some very high power stations.

stampeder · 2006-08-23, 01:46 PM

Some of these DX results are excellent proof of the directionality of your antennas. The idea that an antenna in the GTA area could shut out a local station to get a tropo skipped distant low power station is not just about the atmosphere doing crazy things, it is a testament to the very small back door (rear lobe) of the aerial too!

dcorreia · 2006-08-23, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dsspredator

That's amazing with CIII 41 in Toronto. I've locked WFMJ 21-1 (20) but that was before CBLT went live.

Try for Pittsburgh tonight (25, 48), they have some very high power stations.

Hey,
The reason he was able to pickup a channel on 41 was because last night, the antenna that is used to broadcast 41/47 on the cn tower, went off the air around 1:05am while I was watching Global, I don't think it came back until at least past 6am.

HDTV101 · 2006-08-24, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dcorreia

Hey,
The reason he was able to pickup a channel on 41 was because last night, the antenna that is used to broadcast 41/47 on the cn tower, went off the air around 1:05am while I was watching Global, I don't think it came back until at least past 6am.

Well that’s interesting to know... and yes that would make it much easier not having Global's channel 41 on the air at that time... however were they off the air the night before as well? I picked up the Detroit channel WXYZ and it uses channel 41 as well.

WXYZ-TV 41 DT LIC DETROIT MI US 770. kW

2006-08-19, 09:38 PM	#138
rob50312 Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: derry + winston Mississauga Posts: 789	Sun -dt 15 Hamilton They are directional and only half way up the tower.I have never received Sun Hamilton.Analog 15 from Buffalo always comes in. __________________ samsung 151 ,attic cm4248 yagi uhf antenna ,cm 7775 preamp and ant. direct xg43 with winegard ap4700 and zenith hdr-230

2006-08-22, 09:12 AM	#144
Yaamon Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 300 Steelcase Road W, #20 Markham,905470 9604 ext 230 Posts: 1,753	HDTV101 whoo that's great. Too bad I was not up at that time in the morning and I was a bit lazy to turn my antenna west last night too. Is that WJW from Cleveland? __________________ CM4228/9521/7775;F.RmJvc70FH96/8300HDPvr/Dish 612;B.RmSam46A650/8300HD;Study LG42PX4D/Xbox360; LG37LC2D

2006-08-23, 05:37 AM	#146
HDTV101 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,530	Youngstown OH in Mississauga While I was searching for Cleveland I was picking up a signal on digital channel 41. I fine tuned my antenna and in comes this new station I never heard of before. I looked up the station ID and what do you know it’s WKBN-TV 41 DT CP YOUNGSTOWN OH US 700. kW They’re still listed on the FCC's site as having a construction permit ‘CP’ so they are very new to the air on digital! Youngstown shown on the map as YNG. Main channel 27-1 Subchannel 27-2 has a LP Fox station. WYFX-LP 62 - TX LIC YOUNGSTOWN OH US 25. kW Last edited by HDTV101; 2006-08-23 at 05:43 AM.

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2006-08-19, 08:14 PM	#136
HDTV101 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,530	Funny how I'm in Mississauga and could never pick up SUN-TV on channel 15. They must be using a directional antenna or the Niagara escarpment is in the way... one or the other.

2006-08-19, 08:28 PM	#137
026163 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Downtown Vancouver Posts: 782	hmm, thats weird. cuz there transmit from a 1000' tower in Stoney Creek, on top of the escarpment, which is actually SOUTHEAST of Hamilton, and therefore, they have to aim directly at Missisauga to reach a large portion of downtown hamilton.... who knows. The tower is a mere 15km from my channel master on my roof, so its an automatic 100% for me when the antenna is aimed anywhere in that general direction i wonder if you'll have difficulty locking CHCH-DT when its up and running if you are unable to lock SunTV -15

2006-08-20, 01:37 PM	#139
HDTV101 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,530	Rob, I see you're in my neck of the woods at Derry + Winston Yes I get the Buffalo analog on 15 too, very weak signal, a religious station of some kind. SUN-TV out of Toronto comes booming in here on channel 66 so no need for them to send any channel 15 signal this way.

2006-08-22, 01:51 AM	#142
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2006-08-22, 01:52 AM	#143
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2006-08-22, 12:32 PM	#145
026163 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Downtown Vancouver Posts: 782	I was rotating my antenna back and right at like 10:00PM last night and couldnt pull in anything. I figured the weather guys on that website were off tonight. can it really take that long into the night before the channels come through? I thought once it gets dark, thats what u have for the night.

2006-08-23, 01:46 PM	#148
stampeder OTA Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Delta, BC Posts: 18,944	Some of these DX results are excellent proof of the directionality of your antennas. The idea that an antenna in the GTA area could shut out a local station to get a tropo skipped distant low power station is not just about the atmosphere doing crazy things, it is a testament to the very small back door (rear lobe) of the aerial too!