9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101

[ronr]

I have two 3100s and am adding one 9242 and do have four cables just like Option #2 diagram by Ken0042 in thread #2. My question is though I would like to have the flexibility to move the 9242 around in my house. I have those two cables run to a fixed location but do have cables run to outlets around the house(two to each location) So, to tie the two cables coming from the dish to the two cables going to an outlet do I need a special switch that is talked about or can I use a simple coupler to extend the cables?

[Pinza]

The diagram in Thread #2 Option #2 shows a Quad Legacy LNBF, I doubt you have one of those, can you confirm this please.?

I think it more likely you have an SW44 as in Thread #3.

If you want to have the 2 cable in each location ONLY active when required, then yes you can use "Barrel connectors" (F81's). I would suggest having the 2 lines from the SW44 connected to a Dual Grounding block, then bundle the feeds to the individual rooms together and connect to the Grounding blocks as and when required.

[ronr]

BEV installer is coming tomorrow. I don't presently have a Quad so I assume he will install an SW44.
I will do the other as you suggest after he is done and gone.
Thanks

[ronr]

Are the F81s and the dual grounding blocks different for satellite than cable? Where is a good place to buy?

[Pinza]

They need to handle 2 Ghz.

Ask the installer for a couple, sure he will be happy to help out.

[actionshots]

I am currently renovating my family room for a home theatre. I presently have a single sat receiver (3100) but will upgrade to the 9242 PVR when the reno is done. I understand I need a new dish and I assume I get to keep the old dish and receiver. I’m converging all my speaker lines and inputs to the front left of the room by pulling cables under the floor. The current satellite feed comes from the back of the house, into the basement at the utility room and then under the floor to the other side of the upstairs room. I read that the 9242 needs two cables so I routed another RG-6 cable to the left side as well as a telephone line, Ethernet line and a whole whack of speaker cables. I’m installing a plasma TV above a fireplace (I know it’s not the best but it’s the only place it can go), so I ran two HDMI cables and a centre channel speaker wire from where the TV will go, to where the receiver will be placed (as well as power to the TV).

I was thinking of what to do with the old sat receiver when I read that the 9242 can output to another TV. The old TV is going downstairs, so I could run another cable under the floor to handle the output from the 9242, or use the old sat receiver, or if I understand this correctly, I can send the tv2 signal of the 9242 into my house cable-tv cables. From what I understand the 9242 cable output is strong so perhaps I should route that to the existing house cable and install the old sat receiver downstairs? Does the cable output of the 9242 simply hook up to the TV antenna-in of the other tvs in the house?

Have I understood how the cabling works? Once the floor goes down next week I’ll have no options to change anything.

[taxtwit]

Actionshots:

There's lots of info about sat cabling in general and specific cabling for Bell HD-PVRs in the stickied threads (including this one) but here it is in a nutshell.

In order to get both SD and HD, you need a dual satellite dish, which you may not have if you got your 3100 a few years ago. If you do have a dual satellite dish, you will have two LNBs with one pointed at sat91 and one pointed at sat82. You therefore need some kind of switch to feed signals from both sats.

The switch that ships with the 9242 is a SW44 which has four outputs (i.e. it can feed four single tuner receivers or two 9242s or some combination thereof). Depending on whether you want to keep using your 3100, you will need to use either two or three of the outputs from the SW44. However, although the SW44 is supposedly "weatherproof", it's probably better to have it set up inside, such that you'll need four cables into the house from the dish.

9242s don't work well with a single cable input, so you'll need two cable runs from the SW44 to the 9242. You'll also need a cable run from the SW44 to the 3100. Alternatively, you can send a analog signal from the 9242 to another TV and watch a different channel on that TV. Furthermore, you can usually use one of the cables that feeds one of the 9242 tuners to also carry the analog signal using diplexers.

As an alternative to four cables in/two cables to 9242, you can use (non-Bell approved) DPP equipment. This allows you to have two cables into the house and one cable with a separator to feed both tuners of the 9242.

[actionshots]

Thanks Taxtwit. I read through most of the posts and realize I need to have a new dish. I've never had HD so I have only one LNB and I should qualify for free installation of the PVR and new dual LNB dish. I was wondering more about the output from the 9242 receiver to the other TV's. Since I'm out west I imagine the installer might want to use the old dish to point at one sat and the new one to point at the HD sat. Could I then still use the old 3100 receiver on another TV and the output from the 9242 in the house cabling? I'd like to get the cables I need under the floor. The installation will only take place in Dec.

[Pinza]

Could I then still use the old 3100 receiver on another TV and the output from the 9242 in the house cabling?

yes no problem.

[scar0707]

ok guys im new to this and i need some input on how to get this running right ok im in single mode and im trying to recorre on show and watch another but i do know i need to have both feeds hooked up to it but the problem is right now i have a sw44 downstairs im currently running 91 82 sat and then from there i got one feed to a 3100 and another feed to another 3100 and the other to the new 9242 pvr but i cant get another cable up ther to get the other feed to the 9242 so can i just use a sw21 on the end of that cable run upstairs and then have the 2 feeds any help would be great thanks

[Pinza]

No. You need 2 lines from the SW44 to the 9242.

That is why you cannot watch 1 show and record another, because you are only feeding signals to 1 Tuner.

There is an option you can explore which will involve purchasing some more equipment. Search these Forums for a DPP44.

[scar0707]

ok well i guess im out of luck on this one

[scar0707]

so regardless i need two cables upstairs for this i can split one cable in to two

[Pinza]

If you purchase and install a DPP LNBF and a DPP44 Multiswitch you can then run 1 line to the HD PVR location and use a DPP Seperator. None of the hardware is officially supported by BellTv however it works just fine, for now. That is how my set up runs.

[majik]

I'm trying to hook up the 9242, I've done everything stated in this forum, but i'm not getting anything just "wrong sat". Just to make sure i've got this right

The 2 cables coming from 91 go in 1a and 1b on the sw44?
The 2 cables coming from 82 go in 2a and 2b on the sw44?

When I take out the 82 cables then I get 80 "locked" signal strength on the 91 when I try to connect the cables i lose the signal and get nothing...

Can anyone help shed some light on this for me? thanks.