9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101

[skram]

Steve, Glad to hear you got it all working!

If you have any more questions, please post them.

Enjoy!

[dharms]

Originally Posted by joedoe

the best way is to setup is to skew your dish as per manual. Use only the 91 lnb. Get best possible signal and then add the 82 lnb and do a check switch.

You may want to adjust slightly after that to even the numbers out.

Thanks, the skew worked, sort of... I can get fine signal on both 91 and 82 if I "bypass" the SW44 switch. Still couldn't get 82 after check switch so, for sanity, I ran one line from each LNB directly into the 9200 inputs. One 91 line into sat1 input. One 82 line into sat2 input. Locked and great signal on both. Any ideas? Is my SW44 defective?

[Q]

are you running all 4 lines and using the power inserter with power connected?

[dharms]

Yes, and I checked both lines from 91 and 82 when going direct to the 9200.

[Q]

the only thing to try is switching 1B to 2B and vice versa.

It sounds like you have a bad SW44 switch however.

oh wait. One other common problem with the switch is that it needs very long leads from the wire.

You can also try re-stripping the wire to have about a 1/4" copper sticking out and see if that does the trick.

Joe

[dharms]

Joe, looks like I'm heading to Radio Shack. No 82 through the switch. I went direct again into the 9200 and get 87% locked on 82, transponder 11. 92 is at 100%. Is that a reasonable signal for 82?

I want to get signed up for HD for the NHL playoffs. Can I get it set up by going direct into the 9200? One line 91. One line 82? Just a thought to make it simple.

David.

[Q]

yes if you tried as I suggested I would return it. There is another thread where you can compare signal strengths but that sounds very good.

you can put one 82 and one 91 into the 9200 but I would NOT recommend.
Using this method one tuner can only record 91 sat. and one tuner can only record 82 sat.

I am sure it can work but I would get a working switch.

joe

[Gman1]

Sorry if this question has already been asked but: Can I run one coax cable from the powered line and one from the sw44 to the two sat inputs of the 9200 receiver. Or is the powered line strictly for a single unit. If someone could answer this I would appreciate it.

[bellguy]

All four outputs of the sw44 can go to any receivers input. (The 9200 needs two.) The "powered" line is only inserting power "to" the sw44 to operate it. (normally the receiver supplies power to the LNB but it cannot support 4)

[habskilla]

Can a separator be used with the sw44 to hook up a 5th IRD? One line from the sw44 with a separator to the 9220 and the remaining 3 lines to 3 IRDs?

[Q]

separators only work with a DPP twin lnb or a DPP 44 switch.

[jon.m]

or, vice versa ... I have purchased a 9200 to replace my existing 3100 with dish mounted on my balcony rail (15th floor). I am an end unit but the balcony does not continue to the end of the building. I receive 91 at 99 to 100 signal strength which is the best ever (and I have installed a few) but cannot receive 82. If I sight-line the dish arm, I am looking at concrete so I must asume that 91 just clears the end of the building (offset as it crosses over to 91 LNB) . Here's the math question, "If the corner of the building is 20 feet from my dish, how far straight out on a boom must my mount be moved to receive 82 ?"
Any takers ?
john
(kitchener - not that it should change the math)

P.S. In Point Dish, 82 reports wrong sat. I assume it is looking at 91, but why doesn't it know the difference?

[K2b]

Hi there

I currently have a 2700 and a 3100 installed with one LNB and have just purchased a 9200 with a SW44 and a second LNB.

In anticipation of a friend coming over to help point it at the 82 satellite I installed the switch with only the two cables coming from the 91 LNB. They worked fine on both the 2700 and 3100 after doing a check switch.

I then installed an additional two lines coming from the 82 LNB and attached them to the SW44.

I might add that I have not yet connected the 9200 yet...I just wanted to make sure that the connections for the 82 LNB and the SW44 worked correctly.

Now, I realize it is not aimed correctly at the 82 satellite just yet but figured that they would at least show up on the check switch. When doing a check switch (on both the 2700 and 3100) the 91 shows up fine (1B even, 1A odd) BUT the 82 shows up OK only on 2B (even). 2A (odd) displays an "X".

I thought there might be a problem with the cable going into the switch's 2A connection so I swapped the cable with 2B and even recrimped it (going into the switch).

When I ran a check switch again on both the 2700 and 3100 it shows the same 2A (odd) with an "X". ("problem detected, check connections")

-Is it because it has not yet been pointed correctly and should only worry after that has been done?
-could there be a problem with the switch?
-could there be a problem with the second LNB?
-does it matter which cables from the LNBs go into the switch as sat1 or sat2?

any thoughts would be appreciated!
thanks!

[K2b]

an update:

I directly connected the two feeds from the 82 bird to the 2700 and 3100 (one got the even transponders, the other the odd ones).

Since the dish is not truly aimed for it yet, transponder 12 only came up as 45% but I was able to get the odd channel from 82 (ie channel 222 Thunder Bay) so I know that there was a signal to both the 2700 and 3100.

So, I reconnected everything to the Switch and ran a switch test.
The odd transponders on 82 do not show up (2A) and show as "X" (still).
Those Thunder Bay channels on the 82 satellite show up on the guide, but they don't appear strong enough to actually display on TV.

My thought now is that since it was such a weak signal in the first place that once you run those feeds from the 82 LNB through the SW44 it makes them virtually unusable. Only a proper dish alignment with the 82 satellite will help all transponders display in the "check switch".

Am I way off here or could there be something wrong with the switch, the connections, or even the LNB?

thanks!

[K2b]

After getting the dish aimed properly at the 82 satellite, all problems with transponders and the switch are fixed. I was a little worried when I saw certain transponders (ie #10) at 0% for the 82. A quick search of the forum confirmed that they are not actually operational.

9200 installed with no problems and works well.

Thanks