9200 / 9242 / 9241 Installation 101

[kandkt]

Do you have a legacy LNB you can try in it's place?

Did you set the skew on the dish properly?

You may want to try moving the dish up and to the left a bit as well.

[Glenn3]

91 sat has been verified in the installation summary under port 1. However after a number of check switches the 82 sat is not there. There is only an x in port 2......no where in the summary dose it have 82.

If I were to point the dish at the wall shouldn't It still reconize that there is a DPP twin lnb and shouldn't I see the green "ok" in the port 1/2 boxes? At this point it only seems to reconize sat 91.

Iam guessing that the installation setup cannot verify the lnb cause it is broken. I don't have another lnb at this time.... And yes the skew seems to be set as per bell...but I don't think that matters because it is not even seeing the lnb as a twin... I could be wrong thou

[kandkt]

It may be a dead LNB.

Have you tried swapping cables to see if the problem follows the cables or stays with 82? If it stays with 82, it is probably the LNB.

[Glenn3]

I thought both outputs on the DPP twin had both birds on them....so output 1 on lnb carries 91/82 and output 2 on the lnb also carries 91/82 birds and the 3 rd is an input for another dish. So swapping cables should not tell me anything..... Isn't that right?

Thanks for your posts
Glenn

[kandkt]

The twin LNB will combine both signals together. You may have a problem before the signals are combined (it has an internal switch). I would just rule out having a cable issue by swapping the cables around.

[Pinza]

I would think that you have 91 on the 82 side of the LNBF.

I always point using a regular Legacy LNBF.

[Glenn3]

Pinza

I don't think it matters witch output my cables are on....it's a DPP twin LNB... Both birds on each output.

Right?

[QCK]

Originally Posted by Glenn3

Pinza

I don't think it matters witch output my cables are on....it's a DPP twin LNB... Both birds on each output.

Right?

That is correct.

[Pinza]

That is correct. Both outputs have both birds on them.

I was just thinking that if the 82 side of the LNBF is hitting 91, then the 91 side is hitting 100, which is nothing. !

Does that make sense.?

[Glenn3]

LOL don't make sence to me.

Must be a dead lnb Pinza.... The check switch dose not even reconize 82 is there. Iam not talking about the green single strengh bar...the installation summary after a check switch is done just show 91 sat in port 1 and in port 2 there is not 82 sat number just an x. Even if there is no single (green bar) the summary after a check switch should show both birds. no?

[kandkt]

I think what Pinza is saying makes sense. Try moving the dish up and to the left a bit. You have nothing to loose at this point.

[lonnie]

the installation summary doesn't identify which lnbs it has found, it identifies which satellites those lnbs are receiving. they are separated by 9 degrees so it's possible you have the lnb that is supposed to be aimed on 82 pointed at 91 instead. 9 degrees from there takes you to 100 degrees which is pretty close to a satellite at 101 degrees. if you do pick up a signal from that the on screen signal meter will either say at the bottom of the screen "wrong satellite" or it will show no signal at all if it is completely different from the signal it's looking for. ( dish network signals are recognized by bell receivers but they only have a few transponders on 101 ) likewise you can have the 91 lnb aimed on 82 which leaves the lnb that was supposed to aimed on 82 pointing 9 degrees east of 82 which brings you to 73 degrees which is very close to echostar 6 at 72.5 degrees, another dish network satellite which your receiver might recognize and tell you that you are picking up the wrong satellite if you happen to tune into one of the odd numbered transponders that has dish network programming on it.
the most important steps to insure you get both lnbs aimed on the right satellite are as follows.
1-use a level and get the top part of the mast that the dish clamps onto perfectly vertical. don't put the level on the back of that clamp, take the dish off and put the level on the pipe in two positions to make sure it's level front to back as well as side to side.
2-preset the elevation and skew on the back of the dish for your location.
3-slowly turn the dish left or right from the approximate direction you should be pointing, a compass is a big help but it's very easy to throw it off with any nearby metal such as the dish itself. if the compass is telling you the truth, remember that the dish is actually pointing in between the 2 satellites so 91 is 4.5 degrees to the west of were the dish is pointing and 82 is 4.5 degrees to the east of there. when you do find a signal try a switch check before attempting to fine tune the elevation. otherwise you may be fine tuning for the wrong sat/lnb as described above.

[Glenn3]

So far what I have is 91 sat comming in saying locked on bell 91 with a green signal bar at 94% and recieving all programing from that sat. Check switch has identified the 91 sat and there is a green "ok" beside it. There is nothing but an "x" where the number 82 should be. The mast and skew are perfect as per bells spec's....I will however go and move it around a bit more before getting a new LNB....its a friends house, so I'll try it mabe tomorrow.

thanks guys

[dosborne]

As per the directions in this thread, for initial alignment it is suggested that you bypass the switch and wire directly to the LNB in the 91 slot. Things makes initial setup a lot easier to diganose. After getting a lock on 91, then wire through the switch (and both LNBs) and peak the signal strength.

[Q]

Glenn3,

If you were doing a new install it is very difficult to get a signal from two satellites quickly. I would do as suggested using one and if you don't have a single lnb you can also put tape to block the 82 side of the lnb.

Goodluck