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JohnnyG · 2002-10-31, 12:11 PM

The sub should certainly make a difference. Make sure you set you front speakers as 'Large' so they'll play full-frequency.

That brings up an interesting question actually. If you set the front speakers to large, the center and surrounds to small and the sub on, does the bass from the center and surrounds go to the fronts, to the sub, or both?

57 · 2002-10-31, 12:19 PM

JohnnyG. Each receiver is different in the way it does bass management. For example, I can set my speakers (main, surround, each centre) to "Large" or "Small" and also change the LFE signal to send to "Sub Only", "Main only" or "Both". Some receivers allow changes in the crossover frequency for the LFE signal (usually somewhere from 80-120 Hz)

You have to check your receiver's owners manual, or the setup menu as to what it does.

It also depends on how you hook up your sub - with the LFE, or "on the way" to the main speakers, using the main speaker leads.

See --> .This article on bass management

Some receivers don't offer this flexibility, so it's pretty well receiver specific. Don't even get started about bass management with DVD-A and SACD, which is a real can of worms.

For more details, type "bass management" (with the quotation marks) into your favourite search engine. There are lots of articles there

Geoff · 2002-10-31, 05:32 PM

Johnny ,

Want to read a great article on the subject?

Check this out. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...threadid=12580

All your questions answered.

Check out Brian Florian contributions.

Joxer · 2002-10-31, 05:50 PM

I think I'm better off with the separate sub, but I'll still have to play with it a bit. I don't have the bass setting on the RTi100 set to the max either. The PSW250 doesn't have a separate LFE in, so I hooked it up the way it was in the store - LFE from the receiver to the left line level input. The speakers are run direct from the receiver as well. I could run speaker level to the psw and set sub to no on the receiver instead - I may just try this and see what difference it makes.

Andrewb · 2002-11-07, 02:49 PM

Here is my stuff.

I just upgraded my speakers from Paridigm Phantoms and Atoms to all Mirage (except forthe sub. The OM-10 don't need that much help)

TV: Toshiba 57H81 16:9 HDTV
Source: Star Choice HDTV
DVD: Toshiba SD-3750 Progressive Scan
Receiver: Pioneer 810S 6.1
Fronts: Mirage OM-10's
Center: Mirage OM-C3
Rear: Mirage FRX-Rear's
Back Center: Mirage AVS-150
Sub: 150 Watt Infinity

DavidY · 2002-11-10, 01:39 PM

TV: JVC AV32D201 (with anamorphic squeeze on 16x9 DVDs)
Receiver: Technics SAAX710 (Sony STRDA777ES in need of repair)
DD/DTS Decoder: Technics SHAC500D
Speakers:
Paradigm Reference Studio/60 V.1 mains
Paradigm Reference Studio/20 V.1 rears
Paradigm Reference CC-450 centre
Subwoofer: Mission 700AS (1 in use, 1 in storage)
DVD: Malata N996, XBOX
CD/SACD: Sony SCDXE670
VCR: Samsung HiFi VR8857
Speaker cable: Ultralink Reference Series & Monster XP, 14 ga.
Interconnects: Ultralink Challenger Series, Acoustic Research, Radioshack

Mooneyass · 2002-11-14, 01:33 PM

Electrohome Marquee 8000 with new tubes!
54 x 96" Screen Goo Screen (~2 gain)
HTPC (P4 1.6, Radeon 9000pro, Maudio Delta 410)
Pioneer 709s?
Home built speakers (2 Vifa based center channels, 1 above, 1 below screen)
Base shakers in riser and front couch
Dedicated room, 12x20

Vegaman · 2002-11-20, 02:35 PM

TV: Sony Wega 36 XBR450 with matching Stand
Receiver: Sony STR-DA1ES
Speakers: Sony SSLAC305ED LA Series Centre Speaker
Sony SSLA300ED LA Series Front and Surround with stands
Sony SAWD100S AMPLIFIED SUBWOOFER
DVD: Toshiba 3750
VCR: Can't remember, but it's there
Cable: Rogers, SA3100HD

I just started building the system back in April, except for the DVD and VCR which I already had. As you can see, I'm something of a Sony sicko too. It doesn't come close to many of the impressive systems I've read about here, but I'm still in heaven.

Some of my friends warned me not to buy Sony speakers, but after getting a demo of the ones I bought I was very pleased. They're aesthetically pleasing too, and look very sweet on the stands. I'm still not sure why they go to such a high frequency though (70kHz) which is well beyond our hearing capabilities. I figure it must be a marketing spec.

Cheers!

Khorn · 2002-11-21, 06:56 AM

Here is a link to my system:

http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/8.html

As you can see it's skewed to audio but I have the Rogers HD box also.
Sounds great for movies in 2 channel mode.

HT Buff · 2002-11-21, 01:37 PM

TV Hitachi: 57TWX20B
Receiver: Denon 3802
Speakers: Energy c-5's (front), cc-1 (center), cr-1's (rear surr), c-1's (side surr) and s10.2 (sub)
Monster HTS1100
Bev 6000
DVD: Denon 1600

Acoustic Research Master Series video cables
Monster speaker wires

Overall very happy!! (Need a better sub though)

brianmw · 2002-12-01, 04:48 PM

I exchanged my speakers (Mirage 390is towers with PSB Alpha surrounds and center) with a set of 5 Mirage Ominisat speakers. Our family room is a bit odd-shaped (the rear surrounds have to be placed right beside the couch, which is along the back wall) and these funky little speakers work really well.

With my old speakers, there was a very small sweet spot - this is where I sat 8) With the Ominisats, the sweet spot is much larger - even my wife noticed! I would recommend checking these out if you have little room to work with for speaker placement.

http://www.miragespeakers.com

My current home theater:
Hitachi 57SWX20B RPTV
Yamaha RX-V620 Receiver
Panasonic RP82 DVD
Mirage Ominisat satellite speakers (5)
PSB subwoofer
Home Theater Master MX-500 remote
Xbox (with HDTV adapter) - for me
GameCube (with HDTV adaptor) - for my son

Bent · 2002-12-01, 09:14 PM

Brianmw, I am quite interested in the omnisats to be used as surrounds on either side.
Since my side walls do not allow symetric location of side surround speakers, I think that these little units just might be the ticket.
Would anybody know how they would match up (timbre-wise) with Paradigm's monitor series?

I have Paradigm Mini-Monitors up front, a CC-350 in the center and Titans in the rear, and I am contemplating the purchase of a Harmon-Kardon AVR 525, (upgrade for a Kenwood VR-309) but to justify the 7 channel amplifiers, I'll need 7 speakers...

...I love these dillemas...

brianmw · 2002-12-02, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bent

Would anybody know how they would match up (timbre-wise) with Paradigm's monitor series?

To me, they sound quite unlike anything I've heard before - I'd recommend hearing them along with the Paradigm's before buying.

It might be hard to find a shop that carries both Paradigm and Mirage to hear them together - the store I bought from (Audio Centre in Ottawa) doesn't carry Paradigm.

However, if you can find a local dealer (see dealer locator at the Mirage site) that has them on display, you could probably bring in a couple of your speakers to see how they would work with the Omnisats.

You might even be able to borrow a couple of floor models overnight if you leave a deposit.

braindrain · 2002-12-02, 07:25 PM

With the latest addition:
B&W nautilus 804 L+R
B&W nautilus 805 surr L+R
B&W nautilus HTM2 Center
B&W nautilus ASW2500 Sub
Proceed AVP
Proceed AMP5
Panasonic 42PWD5UY plasma panel.
Sony 360 DVD player
Marantz 5 CD changer

lintec · 2002-12-03, 11:28 AM

TV: Toshiba 34HF81 34" 16:9 direct view
Receiver: Marantz SR-8200 THX Select
DVD player: Toshiba SD-3750 (soon to change)
CD player: Marantz CC38 5-disc carousel
Main Speakers: Totem Sttafs
Centre and Rear Centre: Totem Mite-TCs
Surround Speakers: Totem Mites
Nintendo GameCube with component connection (480p) & analog audio
Sony PlayStation2 with S-Video connection & digital audio
SA-3100HD with Rogers Basic Cable & HDTV service

2002-10-31, 12:19 PM	#62
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,301	JohnnyG. Each receiver is different in the way it does bass management. For example, I can set my speakers (main, surround, each centre) to "Large" or "Small" and also change the LFE signal to send to "Sub Only", "Main only" or "Both". Some receivers allow changes in the crossover frequency for the LFE signal (usually somewhere from 80-120 Hz) You have to check your receiver's owners manual, or the setup menu as to what it does. It also depends on how you hook up your sub - with the LFE, or "on the way" to the main speakers, using the main speaker leads. See --> .This article on bass management Some receivers don't offer this flexibility, so it's pretty well receiver specific. Don't even get started about bass management with DVD-A and SACD, which is a real can of worms. For more details, type "bass management" (with the quotation marks) into your favourite search engine. There are lots of articles there __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

2002-11-14, 01:33 PM	#67
Mooneyass Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 24	Electrohome Marquee 8000 with new tubes! 54 x 96" Screen Goo Screen (~2 gain) HTPC (P4 1.6, Radeon 9000pro, Maudio Delta 410) Pioneer 709s? Home built speakers (2 Vifa based center channels, 1 above, 1 below screen) Base shakers in riser and front couch Dedicated room, 12x20 __________________ BEV 6000 into an 8" Electrohome Marquee Like an 8 foot wide pane of glass!

2002-11-20, 02:35 PM	#68
Vegaman Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 60	TV: Sony Wega 36 XBR450 with matching Stand Receiver: Sony STR-DA1ES Speakers: Sony SSLAC305ED LA Series Centre Speaker Sony SSLA300ED LA Series Front and Surround with stands Sony SAWD100S AMPLIFIED SUBWOOFER DVD: Toshiba 3750 VCR: Can't remember, but it's there Cable: Rogers, SA3100HD I just started building the system back in April, except for the DVD and VCR which I already had. As you can see, I'm something of a Sony sicko too. It doesn't come close to many of the impressive systems I've read about here, but I'm still in heaven. Some of my friends warned me not to buy Sony speakers, but after getting a demo of the ones I bought I was very pleased. They're aesthetically pleasing too, and look very sweet on the stands. I'm still not sure why they go to such a high frequency though (70kHz) which is well beyond our hearing capabilities. I figure it must be a marketing spec. Cheers! __________________ Vegaman

2002-11-21, 06:56 AM	#69
Khorn Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North York (West Lansing), Toronto Posts: 1,082	Khorn's A/V System Here is a link to my system: http://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/8.html As you can see it's skewed to audio but I have the Rogers HD box also. Sounds great for movies in 2 channel mode.

2002-12-01, 04:48 PM	#71
brianmw Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 50	Just got new speakers I exchanged my speakers (Mirage 390is towers with PSB Alpha surrounds and center) with a set of 5 Mirage Ominisat speakers. Our family room is a bit odd-shaped (the rear surrounds have to be placed right beside the couch, which is along the back wall) and these funky little speakers work really well. With my old speakers, there was a very small sweet spot - this is where I sat 8) With the Ominisats, the sweet spot is much larger - even my wife noticed! I would recommend checking these out if you have little room to work with for speaker placement. http://www.miragespeakers.com My current home theater: Hitachi 57SWX20B RPTV Yamaha RX-V620 Receiver Panasonic RP82 DVD Mirage Ominisat satellite speakers (5) PSB subwoofer Home Theater Master MX-500 remote Xbox (with HDTV adapter) - for me GameCube (with HDTV adaptor) - for my son

2002-10-31, 12:11 PM	#61
JohnnyG Veteran Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North York, Ontario Posts: 10,407	The sub should certainly make a difference. Make sure you set you front speakers as 'Large' so they'll play full-frequency. That brings up an interesting question actually. If you set the front speakers to large, the center and surrounds to small and the sub on, does the bass from the center and surrounds go to the fronts, to the sub, or both?

2002-10-31, 05:32 PM	#63
Geoff Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hamilton , Ont. Posts: 319	Johnny , Want to read a great article on the subject? Check this out. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...threadid=12580 All your questions answered. Check out Brian Florian contributions.

2002-10-31, 05:50 PM	#64
Joxer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Etobicoke Posts: 1,064	I think I'm better off with the separate sub, but I'll still have to play with it a bit. I don't have the bass setting on the RTi100 set to the max either. The PSW250 doesn't have a separate LFE in, so I hooked it up the way it was in the store - LFE from the receiver to the left line level input. The speakers are run direct from the receiver as well. I could run speaker level to the psw and set sub to no on the receiver instead - I may just try this and see what difference it makes.

2002-11-07, 02:49 PM	#65
Andrewb Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia Posts: 4	Here is my stuff. I just upgraded my speakers from Paridigm Phantoms and Atoms to all Mirage (except forthe sub. The OM-10 don't need that much help) TV: Toshiba 57H81 16:9 HDTV Source: Star Choice HDTV DVD: Toshiba SD-3750 Progressive Scan Receiver: Pioneer 810S 6.1 Fronts: Mirage OM-10's Center: Mirage OM-C3 Rear: Mirage FRX-Rear's Back Center: Mirage AVS-150 Sub: 150 Watt Infinity

2002-11-10, 01:39 PM	#66
DavidY Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Central Alberta, Canada Posts: 627	TV: JVC AV32D201 (with anamorphic squeeze on 16x9 DVDs) Receiver: Technics SAAX710 (Sony STRDA777ES in need of repair) DD/DTS Decoder: Technics SHAC500D Speakers: Paradigm Reference Studio/60 V.1 mains Paradigm Reference Studio/20 V.1 rears Paradigm Reference CC-450 centre Subwoofer: Mission 700AS (1 in use, 1 in storage) DVD: Malata N996, XBOX CD/SACD: Sony SCDXE670 VCR: Samsung HiFi VR8857 Speaker cable: Ultralink Reference Series & Monster XP, 14 ga. Interconnects: Ultralink Challenger Series, Acoustic Research, Radioshack

2002-11-21, 01:37 PM	#70
HT Buff Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1	TV Hitachi: 57TWX20B Receiver: Denon 3802 Speakers: Energy c-5's (front), cc-1 (center), cr-1's (rear surr), c-1's (side surr) and s10.2 (sub) Monster HTS1100 Bev 6000 DVD: Denon 1600 Acoustic Research Master Series video cables Monster speaker wires Overall very happy!! (Need a better sub though)

2002-12-01, 09:14 PM	#72
Bent Veteran Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: MB Posts: 1,788	Brianmw, I am quite interested in the omnisats to be used as surrounds on either side. Since my side walls do not allow symetric location of side surround speakers, I think that these little units just might be the ticket. Would anybody know how they would match up (timbre-wise) with Paradigm's monitor series? I have Paradigm Mini-Monitors up front, a CC-350 in the center and Titans in the rear, and I am contemplating the purchase of a Harmon-Kardon AVR 525, (upgrade for a Kenwood VR-309) but to justify the 7 channel amplifiers, I'll need 7 speakers... ...I love these dillemas...

2002-12-02, 07:25 PM	#74
braindrain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 47	With the latest addition: B&W nautilus 804 L+R B&W nautilus 805 surr L+R B&W nautilus HTM2 Center B&W nautilus ASW2500 Sub Proceed AVP Proceed AMP5 Panasonic 42PWD5UY plasma panel. Sony 360 DVD player Marantz 5 CD changer

2002-12-03, 11:28 AM	#75
lintec Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Ont. Posts: 19	TV: Toshiba 34HF81 34" 16:9 direct view Receiver: Marantz SR-8200 THX Select DVD player: Toshiba SD-3750 (soon to change) CD player: Marantz CC38 5-disc carousel Main Speakers: Totem Sttafs Centre and Rear Centre: Totem Mite-TCs Surround Speakers: Totem Mites Nintendo GameCube with component connection (480p) & analog audio Sony PlayStation2 with S-Video connection & digital audio SA-3100HD with Rogers Basic Cable & HDTV service __________________ lintec / Phil

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