CBC's OTA Future: Discussion - Page 3 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

Jakeman3 · 2012-04-18, 02:30 PM

Great thanks. I'll look into and see how it works out for me. When it come to the sales rep - I'll be strong ;-)

Jakeman3 · 2012-04-18, 06:58 PM

I'm surprised that there isn't more protest about this?? I mean, if the private broadcaster turned off, I'd be upset.. When public broadcaster turns off, I'm angry.. Fired off a letter to Tony Clement and the local Metroland group Cottagecountrynow.ca C'mon, 85,000 people in Parry Sound - Muskoka isn't worth it?? GLOBAL switched over their stick that covers most of the area...

BCF · 2012-04-18, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OTA-London

Just letting you know, not to count out the CBC going Dark in London yet. Big Details to be released soon, and not from the CBC.

Hum, interesting.... after all the complaints to the CBC, CRTC, municipal, provincial, and federal politicians and everything else that transpired last year!!

It would be good to see the CBC continue to broadcast in the London area (but switch to digital, of course). Even with the $115M funding cut, the CBC is still given about $1B annually..

I think I'd look forward more to seeing the CBC broadcasted on a x.1 OTA channel, and use a x.2 subchannel for CBCNN. Both broadcasting at 720p. Just wishful thinking...

someguy23475 · 2012-04-19, 09:08 AM

Perhaps someone wants to start up a private CBC affiliate in London? I know the CBC has been weeding those out, but you never know.

TOTVBuff · 2012-04-20, 05:07 PM

They could use the sub-channel to broadcast CBC French. Its viewing audience isn't that great that it really requires its own channel.

Jakeman3 · 2012-04-20, 05:37 PM

Someone should suggest a story to CBC marketplace. Tom Harrington could inform the public that they have options available and also expose the lies that the cable companies are deliberately spreading...

j0dest3r · 2012-04-20, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakeman3

Someone should suggest a story to CBC marketplace. Tom Harrington could inform the public that they have options available and also expose the lies that the cable companies are deliberately spreading...

I tweeted him and asked for a story just for the heck of it since it was such a good idea.

**EDIT** here was his response:

Thanks for the idea E-mail more details. marketplace@cbc.ca

**EDIT Again**

Done! :-)

krusty79 · 2012-04-22, 02:27 PM

If you understand French, here is a link to Radio-Canada's program La Facture:

La facture, Feb. 14, 2012 "Rabbit ears, are they really dead?"

They went to Bell and Videotron with a hidden camera and both told the customer that OTA doesn't exist anymore.

stampeder · 2012-04-22, 02:42 PM

Excellent sting operation!

GeorgeMx · 2012-04-23, 01:49 PM

With CBC terminating their analogue transmitters this summer, they will be dependent on BDUs to get their signals to viewers/taxpayers in many places. Why would they want to promote OTA when they will only be on BDU in many parts of Canada?

ota_canuck · 2012-04-23, 02:06 PM

I think CBC will likely get another extended approval to continue analog in those remote/fringe areas anyways. As far as I can tell, most CBC analog are broadcasting LP in the Lo-VHF spectrum, so they are not a threat to interfering with the higher frequency usage.

Emerald_Boar · 2012-04-23, 03:10 PM

I do not see a reason why CBC + SRC cant just become a subchannel on a another channel. Was this not the reason for the DTV push? To have more or higher quality channels?

I know in many areas in our country would love to have NHiC rights. All CBC would have to do is give up some of advertising revenue.

Plus this would cool flames that are about to burn CBC.

Read ya l8r,
Al

roger1818 · 2012-04-23, 04:30 PM

It has nothing to do with approval or extensions. It is all about money. With the recent cutbacks, the CBC can no longer afford to support its 600+ analog transmitters. They were planning on shutting them down soon as the infrastructure is reaching the end of its life, but the cutbacks are accelerating things.

tvlurker · 2012-04-23, 04:49 PM

Don't forget that the CBC is getting all the advertising revenue right now from people who watch on BDUs in areas where there is already no CBC OTA presence (Kamloops, Medicine Hat, etc.). Restoring private affiliates there, as well as London, Saskatoon, Saint John, and all the other large centres about to lose OTA would mean losing ALL that revenue to private affiliates, as opposed to only revenue accruing to the OTA-only people that they are losing now.

Jakeman3 · 2012-04-23, 05:00 PM

Of the 602 transmitters that are slated for shut down... many cover exceedingly sparse populations... not the case with area's such as London.... To save $10 million dollars, this just doesn't seems logical? You could probably shut down 500 transmitters keep the last 102 in the most populous areas, save a bundle and still cover 99% of the population..

What impact will these shut downs have on priorty carriage by the BDU's?? Can Rogers London drop CBC off of it's cable lineup since it's not being distributed? Is there any Sim-Subbing going on on CBC? Jeopardy?

2012-04-20, 05:37 PM	#36
Jakeman3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 98	CBC's OTA Future, 2012: Discussion Someone should suggest a story to CBC marketplace. Tom Harrington could inform the public that they have options available and also expose the lies that the cable companies are deliberately spreading...

2012-04-23, 02:06 PM	#41
ota_canuck Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dunnville, Ontario on the Grand River, North shore Lake Erie Posts: 2,406	I think CBC will likely get another extended approval to continue analog in those remote/fringe areas anyways. As far as I can tell, most CBC analog are broadcasting LP in the Lo-VHF spectrum, so they are not a threat to interfering with the higher frequency usage. __________________ 3D SSH III with ZZ4 refl. http://imageshack.us/user/jmsdigital

2012-04-23, 03:10 PM	#42
Emerald_Boar Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: (SoHo area) London ON Posts: 603	I do not see a reason why CBC + SRC cant just become a subchannel on a another channel. Was this not the reason for the DTV push? To have more or higher quality channels? I know in many areas in our country would love to have NHiC rights. All CBC would have to do is give up some of advertising revenue. Plus this would cool flames that are about to burn CBC. Read ya l8r, Al __________________ OTA: DB8 + Y5 2-6 + CM777. FTA: 30W + 72W + 87W + 97W

2012-04-23, 04:30 PM	#43
roger1818 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ottawa (Stittsville), ON, OTA (Radio Shack Omnidirectional Antenna and 5Y6S in Attic), MythTV HTPC Posts: 5,630	It has nothing to do with approval or extensions. It is all about money. With the recent cutbacks, the CBC can no longer afford to support its 600+ analog transmitters. They were planning on shutting them down soon as the infrastructure is reaching the end of its life, but the cutbacks are accelerating things. __________________ Link to my TVFool results is in my profile Homepage URL. I suggest others do the same.

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2012-04-18, 02:30 PM	#31
Jakeman3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 98	Great thanks. I'll look into and see how it works out for me. When it come to the sales rep - I'll be strong ;-)

2012-04-18, 06:58 PM	#32
Jakeman3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 98	I'm surprised that there isn't more protest about this?? I mean, if the private broadcaster turned off, I'd be upset.. When public broadcaster turns off, I'm angry.. Fired off a letter to Tony Clement and the local Metroland group Cottagecountrynow.ca C'mon, 85,000 people in Parry Sound - Muskoka isn't worth it?? GLOBAL switched over their stick that covers most of the area...

2012-04-19, 09:08 AM	#34
someguy23475 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Wayne, MI (between Ann Arbor and Detroit) Posts: 251	Perhaps someone wants to start up a private CBC affiliate in London? I know the CBC has been weeding those out, but you never know.

2012-04-20, 05:07 PM	#35
TOTVBuff Rookie Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: SW Riverdale, Toronto Posts: 17	They could use the sub-channel to broadcast CBC French. Its viewing audience isn't that great that it really requires its own channel.

2012-04-22, 02:27 PM	#38
krusty79 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Crabtree,QC (Joliette) CM-3679 pre-amp Posts: 66	If you understand French, here is a link to Radio-Canada's program La Facture: La facture, Feb. 14, 2012 "Rabbit ears, are they really dead?" They went to Bell and Videotron with a hidden camera and both told the customer that OTA doesn't exist anymore.

2012-04-22, 02:42 PM	#39
stampeder OTA Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St) Posts: 23,338	Excellent sting operation!

2012-04-23, 01:49 PM	#40
GeorgeMx Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 732	With CBC terminating their analogue transmitters this summer, they will be dependent on BDUs to get their signals to viewers/taxpayers in many places. Why would they want to promote OTA when they will only be on BDU in many parts of Canada?

2012-04-23, 04:49 PM	#44
tvlurker Veteran Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Craig Henry (Greenbank/Hunt Club), Nepean, ON Posts: 2,733	Don't forget that the CBC is getting all the advertising revenue right now from people who watch on BDUs in areas where there is already no CBC OTA presence (Kamloops, Medicine Hat, etc.). Restoring private affiliates there, as well as London, Saskatoon, Saint John, and all the other large centres about to lose OTA would mean losing ALL that revenue to private affiliates, as opposed to only revenue accruing to the OTA-only people that they are losing now.

2012-04-23, 05:00 PM	#45
Jakeman3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 98	Of the 602 transmitters that are slated for shut down... many cover exceedingly sparse populations... not the case with area's such as London.... To save $10 million dollars, this just doesn't seems logical? You could probably shut down 500 transmitters keep the last 102 in the most populous areas, save a bundle and still cover 99% of the population.. What impact will these shut downs have on priorty carriage by the BDU's?? Can Rogers London drop CBC off of it's cable lineup since it's not being distributed? Is there any Sim-Subbing going on on CBC? Jeopardy?