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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Announced today, the CBC will be selling off bold, the drama, comedy, sports, and arts and culture channel.
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Oxford, Nova Scotia
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Excellent! That will give Bell, Rogers, or Shaw another place to replay their reruns. The broad of spectrum of diverse programming that they own is really crying for another channel for distribution.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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I'm placing my bet. It will be bought up by SHAW so they can convert it into another womans channel.
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Location: Hamilton
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I doubt Shaw or Bell will be interested in this channel. It will probably go to Glassbox or some other independent broadcaster.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Whoever buys it it will turn into a CSI channel 24/7. Too bad.
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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How about turning into a Fox Movie channel Canada, or TNT Canada
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: London, Ontario
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BCE - would they even try. Shaw/Corus had a stake in it but sold it off. Glassbox could be interested as it is a category one or is that category A now.
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Orillia, Ontario
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The CBC shouldn't have been in the business of pay specialty channels in the first place. They should have launced a CBC and SRC Two, but the CRTC told them "no" back in the 90s. Personally, I don't think the CBC should even be subject to the CRTC. As a national public service, they should be under a Parliamentary Committee.
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Bold should be BOLD! It can only be so if acquired by an Indie. We do NOT need another run-of-the-mill movie channel, more CSI or another Woman Channel. Nuthin wrong with the programming concept here. It just needs a lil TLC, something unlikely to be supplied by Bell, Shaw, Corus, Rogers.....that being said, it's possible a backroom deal with one of the aforementioned has already been completed....sigh
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Owning a specialty channel is supposedly a licence to print money, but for the CBC, they were probably worried about being arrested for counterfeiting and had to dump the channel before they were exposed as fraudsters.
![]() http://cbc.radio-canada.ca/annualrep...ents/Q3-en.pdf [CBC's financial numbers] Quote:
However, now that CBC has put its Bold specialty channel up for sale, I predict that Kevin O'Leary will buy it and rebrand it as The bAld Channel ... To bAldly Go Where No Hair Has Gone Before. The bAld Channel will air episodes of Max Headroom (I wonder where I got that idea from?), Kojak and various other hairless programming. Infomercials such as: The O'Leary Chia Pet, and Kevin's version of Hair Club For Men ... Baby Seal Clubbing for Real Men will run in the early-morning hours. Peter Mansbridge will join Kevin on the O'Leary and Mansbridge Over Troubled Water nightly current affairs show dealing with topics like the increasing bullying of the balding. |
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Ottawa
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A million subs isn't that bad.
How many do other specialty channels have? I'll bet not as many as Bold. I don't know who will buy Bold or what will happen to Bold. But here's the thing assuming a "indie" company gets its runs the channel the way it is presently for a year or two then turns around and goes to the CRTC and says we want 'change' the license programing to such and such, the CRTC agrees and either allows it to stay as Cat 1 or change to Cat 2. In any case you've got a channel and your in Biz. Like I said I'm not sure what will happen with Bold or what I said will come true or not only time will tell. |
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Fredericton, NB
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Isn't the license for this still for a rural focused channel from back when it was Country Canada? Bold in no way adheres to that, and the CRTC doesn't really mind (same with History, etc).
So I doubt anybody would bother applying to change the license. |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Woodstock, Ontario
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The number of subscribers is misleading as the channel is available in a number of packages that are available from providers. Real figures would only account for those actually and directly paying for the channel. This is the problem with most speciality channels and is very misleading.
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Toronto, Canada
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I agree with Lindsay649. It is very misleading because of the various packages that are available. Get in a good enough package and a million subscribers is not that difficult to achieve (1 million seems to be the norm).
Various subscriber numbers have been posted on this website in the past, but Bell wants each of its Category 1 specialty channels (such as TSN and Discovery) to achieve at least a 50% minimum customer base for each of the BDUs. If one of its Category 1 channels fails to reach a target minimum, it must be put in a "better" package to increase its subscriber base. This matter was recently dealt with by the CRTC, but of course, it sided with Bell. http://blog.fagstein.com/2012/04/06/...cable-dispute/ [CRTC sides with Bell Media in dispute with cable companies] Quote:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=145804 [CRTC to ensure wide choice of TV programming] ------------------------------------------------ One of the owners (Leonard Asper) of the Fight Network basically mentioned that the 1 million or so subs that it has, isn't really enough to secure enough new and live programming for the channel. Asper also mentioned that it's very important to get into a better package with the more popular channels (just like Mark Cuban always wants for his channels). Although it's true that Bold is part of the Rogers VIP package, I would like to know how many subscribers each channel has as an à la carte service. The problem is that many channels can only be purchased as part of a package (or are mandatory), which makes the subscriber numbers very misleading. ---------------------------- http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...-fight-network [Asper hopes to score a knockout with revamped and rebranded Fight Network] Quote:
In December of 2010, (The) Fight Network had approx. 450,000 subscribers. And when Asper was asked (in June of 2011) where he'd like Fight Network to be in 5 years, he said this: Quote:
---------------- Perhaps just as important is the carriage fee. Did Bold secure high enough carriage fees to make that 1 million subscribers milestone even matter? Apparently, TSN has/had the highest carriage fee (over a buck for each subscriber) of the specialty channels, but it would be even higher if its subscriber base dropped. The lower your subscriber numbers are, the higher your carriage fee needs to be in order to survive. However, whether or not you can negotiate a higher carriage fee is another story. And yes, once a specialty channel is launched, it's not that difficult to get the CRTC to look the other way when you want to make changes to your programming lineup, however, the CRTC actually blocked Bold's attempt to completely rebrand itself a while back, so that was probably the tipoff that the CBC was eventually going to dump Bold (the CBC complained that it couldn't properly compete with its current Country Canada limitations). According to TvBasics': In 2010, there were only 327 conventional, specialty and pay channels in Canada, as compared to 1,381 channels in the United States. The North American TV Market Rankings (based on population) for 2011/2012 (as of Jan 2012: Nielson and BBM Canada): 1) New York 2) LA 3) Chicago 4) Philadelphia 5) Toronto-Hamilton 6) Dallas-Ft. Worth 12) Detroit 13) Montreal (French and English combined) 14) Minneapolis-St. Paul USA (Pop.): 291,746,000 Canada (Pop.): 33,593,000 |
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Orillia, Ontario
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The really strange thing about this, is as CBC is selling Bold, they're simultaniously lanching a new French-service specialty channel called Explora.
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