Nimiq 6 (New Bell Satellite) Discussion - Page 4 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

julie_rose_ · 2012-04-19, 07:37 PM

i read somewhere they will offer more video services, how are they going to do that if satellite can't offer tv on demand?

Pinza · 2012-04-19, 07:39 PM

Bell TV offer a type of "On Demand" right now, where part of the movie is already downloaded onto the drive, in 1080p.

ScaryBob · 2012-04-20, 02:58 AM

Quote:

If the footprint does not reach you will get no signal, no matter how much 'tweaking' you do.

It is theoretically possible to get a signal but those 20 foot dishes are a bugger to mount on the roof and aim properly.

I've heard of people getting Bell TV in the Caribbean with 10' dishes and line amps.

QCK · 2012-04-20, 07:45 AM

No it is not possible, just like Pinza mentioned, if you are out of the footprint. A larger dish will not help you get a signal that is not there. Just ask the people in the southern US that cannot get 82W anymore. Anyone who is getting a signal from 91W with a 10' dish live on the outer fringe of the footprint and that will all be changed with the launch of Nimiq6 and the new footprint it will have.

MCIBUS · 2012-04-20, 09:28 AM

10' 20' DISH!! well using one of those in Canada I almost can say for certain you won't loose the signal in the rain thats for sure.

Pinza · 2012-04-20, 11:53 AM

You will still loose signals if the storm is over the Upload Location in Scarborough.

MCIBUS · 2012-04-20, 02:07 PM

True

But having that large of a Dish would be

a bit of an eye sour but still

and at least if rained in your neighbourhood(asuming your not in the same uplink general location)you'd still won't loose youtr signal.

But would you have 100% on ever transponder?

I know when I had BTV(had two 24" dishes one@91, one@82 and most of the signals where either 100 or 95-100% and that was with N1 & N?(old sat). Not sure what the signal would be now if I had BTV with N4 & N6?

kovalev · 2012-05-01, 08:23 PM

Any update on launching schedule ?

Will it be broadcast live on the internet ?

frenchhomer · 2012-05-02, 08:15 AM

ILS will show the launch live, bit more info here, as we get closer to the date they will put up their video player. cheers

http://www.ilslaunch.com/mission-con...ission-nimiq-6

monkeyhunk · 2012-05-07, 10:11 AM

More importantly than the snowbirds, will this have any effect on those of us using a bird dog to point dishes every day. Will they have to be reprogrammed since it's Nimiq 6 and not Nimiq 1 anymore?

Pinza · 2012-05-07, 12:12 PM

It has actually been designated Nimiq 91 by Bell for a long time as saying Nimiq 1 & 4 are both at 91 degrees was confusing.

I don't see any major problems with meters, you will still be aiming at 91 degrees, regardless of the name of the bird. It is not going to be 8PSK so there are no problems there.

kovalev · 2012-05-07, 07:09 PM

I am confused !!!

How many sat at each position, and which one ??

What are at the 82 position ?
What are at the 91 position?

monkeyhunk · 2012-05-07, 09:13 PM

True enough, Pinza. I didn't even think of that. Forgot there are already 2 at 91.

Squidy · 2012-05-10, 01:08 PM

Nimiq 6 launch set for May 17th.

http://www.spaceref.com/calendar/calendar.html?pid=7425

frenchhomer · 2012-05-12, 01:21 PM

More info on where to watch the launch...
In Canada, the Launch Broadcast will be Seen on the Following in SD:
Anik F2C, 7B
36 Mhz
Uplink frequency: 6205.0 Horizontal
Downlink frequency: 3980.0 Vertical
Analog SD, center cut 4:3
Audio: 6.2 and 6.8
Telesat order #220522, feed 1
Carrier ID#: 243031

In the US, the Launch Broadcast will be seen on the following in HD:
AMC-9, transponder C10, channel C10A
83 degrees West
18 mhz.
U/L frequency – 6,116.000 Horizontal
D/L frequency – 3,891.000 Vertical
1080i QPSK
FEC: 3/4
Symbol rate: 13.333, DVB – S, MPEG2 HD 4:2:0

Webcast http://nimiq6.imgondemand.com Live streaming will begin approximately 30 minutes before liftoff May 17 15.12 EDT. More info here ...
http://www.ilslaunch.com/newsroom/ne...launch-nimiq-6
cheers

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2012-04-19, 07:37 PM	#46
julie_rose_ Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 289	i read somewhere they will offer more video services, how are they going to do that if satellite can't offer tv on demand?

2012-04-19, 07:39 PM	#47
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,684	Bell TV offer a type of "On Demand" right now, where part of the movie is already downloaded onto the drive, in 1080p.

2012-04-20, 07:45 AM	#49
QCK Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,140	No it is not possible, just like Pinza mentioned, if you are out of the footprint. A larger dish will not help you get a signal that is not there. Just ask the people in the southern US that cannot get 82W anymore. Anyone who is getting a signal from 91W with a 10' dish live on the outer fringe of the footprint and that will all be changed with the launch of Nimiq6 and the new footprint it will have.

2012-04-20, 09:28 AM	#50
MCIBUS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,136	10' 20' DISH!! well using one of those in Canada I almost can say for certain you won't loose the signal in the rain thats for sure.

2012-04-20, 11:53 AM	#51
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,684	You will still loose signals if the storm is over the Upload Location in Scarborough.

2012-04-20, 02:07 PM	#52
MCIBUS Veteran Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 2,136	True But having that large of a Dish would be a bit of an eye sour but still and at least if rained in your neighbourhood(asuming your not in the same uplink general location)you'd still won't loose youtr signal. But would you have 100% on ever transponder? I know when I had BTV(had two 24" dishes one@91, one@82 and most of the signals where either 100 or 95-100% and that was with N1 & N?(old sat). Not sure what the signal would be now if I had BTV with N4 & N6?

2012-05-01, 08:23 PM	#53
kovalev Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lachute, Quebec Posts: 214	Any update on launching schedule ? Will it be broadcast live on the internet ?

2012-05-02, 08:15 AM	#54
frenchhomer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 115	ILS will show the launch live, bit more info here, as we get closer to the date they will put up their video player. cheers http://www.ilslaunch.com/mission-con...ission-nimiq-6

2012-05-07, 10:11 AM	#55
monkeyhunk Join Date: May 2012 Location: ON Posts: 398	More importantly than the snowbirds, will this have any effect on those of us using a bird dog to point dishes every day. Will they have to be reprogrammed since it's Nimiq 6 and not Nimiq 1 anymore?

2012-05-07, 12:12 PM	#56
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,684	It has actually been designated Nimiq 91 by Bell for a long time as saying Nimiq 1 & 4 are both at 91 degrees was confusing. I don't see any major problems with meters, you will still be aiming at 91 degrees, regardless of the name of the bird. It is not going to be 8PSK so there are no problems there.

2012-05-07, 07:09 PM	#57
kovalev Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lachute, Quebec Posts: 214	I am confused !!! How many sat at each position, and which one ?? What are at the 82 position ? What are at the 91 position?

2012-05-07, 09:13 PM	#58
monkeyhunk Join Date: May 2012 Location: ON Posts: 398	True enough, Pinza. I didn't even think of that. Forgot there are already 2 at 91.

2012-05-10, 01:08 PM	#59
Squidy Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 22	Nimiq 6 launch set for May 17th. http://www.spaceref.com/calendar/calendar.html?pid=7425

2012-05-12, 01:21 PM	#60
frenchhomer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 115	More info on where to watch the launch... In Canada, the Launch Broadcast will be Seen on the Following in SD: Anik F2C, 7B 36 Mhz Uplink frequency: 6205.0 Horizontal Downlink frequency: 3980.0 Vertical Analog SD, center cut 4:3 Audio: 6.2 and 6.8 Telesat order #220522, feed 1 Carrier ID#: 243031 In the US, the Launch Broadcast will be seen on the following in HD: AMC-9, transponder C10, channel C10A 83 degrees West 18 mhz. U/L frequency – 6,116.000 Horizontal D/L frequency – 3,891.000 Vertical 1080i QPSK FEC: 3/4 Symbol rate: 13.333, DVB – S, MPEG2 HD 4:2:0 Webcast http://nimiq6.imgondemand.com Live streaming will begin approximately 30 minutes before liftoff May 17 15.12 EDT. More info here ... http://www.ilslaunch.com/newsroom/ne...launch-nimiq-6 cheers