Nimiq 6 (New Bell Satellite) Discussion - Page 3 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

frostycold · 2012-04-03, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by primehifi

It only goes so far into the atlantic by happenstance, not on purpose.

It's to do with the angle of projection from the satellite.

A similar thing happens to Dishnetwork's 119 satellite. The higher it goes (82,91,101, 110,119) the further to the west it goes and the further to the east the signal can "leak" or "spill" over.

If the sat was at 61, it would be almost directly above the east coast of North America and therefor could cut almost a straight line down the coastline.

It's all to do with angles, power, etc. etc.

On the topic of satellite on planes like westjet, as I drew in a diagram in this thread or another, westjet may have some issues with USA flights and getting services, unless Bell provides a specific beam for airplane sat tv.

As a US citizen living in the wilds of Northern Ontario, I get a stronger single on 110 and 119 on my Dish sub than I do with the Bell sats. Although, my HD on 129 is touchy.

vaillan57 · 2012-04-11, 09:35 AM

Can you tell me if we could get 82 bird in Florida

m3repair · 2012-04-11, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostycold

As a US citizen living in the wilds of Northern Ontario, I get a stronger single on 110 and 119 on my Dish sub than I do with the Bell sats. Although, my HD on 129 is touchy.

That just means you need a larger bird catcher for 129

m3repair · 2012-04-11, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vaillan57

Can you tell me if we could get 82 bird in Florida

Highly unlikely when it launchs, this is what they want to prevent now. When I was last there a lot of people only had starchoice others has major issues trying to get 91 let alone 82. But may I remind you that account stacking or having accounts where you shouldn't reside or live in is generally not recommended

AFF · 2012-04-11, 10:13 AM

They are not trying to prevent the South from getting signal. Bell is trying to provide better signal to Northern Canada. By doing this the Southern US loses signal. It's not about stopping Florida and the like from getting signal.

frenchhomer · 2012-04-11, 10:18 AM

AFF is correct, it is about trying to get a stronger signal in Northern Canada, I have a friend that lives way up North and he needs a 1.2 meter dish to get the 91 sat at decent signal.

m3repair · 2012-04-11, 10:23 AM

I understand that underlying reason, but what has to be understood as it solves the issue of people getting the signal where they really shouldn't get it. Besides getting a stronger signal up north which by all means is a good thing and is the main focus. My post was nearly a reminder that this is part of the issue that will occur once this launch happens

Paulo · 2012-04-11, 01:11 PM

All this talk is great.....but does any know if any of this translates into better PQ for us?

Thanks

Paul

Pinza · 2012-04-11, 05:15 PM

No, no better PQ.

rogue17 · 2012-04-12, 06:42 PM

The reception will be stronger and that will be a good thing.

pestyjoe · 2012-04-19, 08:35 AM

If Bell wants to do this, they could put a spot beam just for the people in Florida but I think that they are far away from doing that. They keep calling people to check the receivers in houses, so I doubt very much that they will spot beam Florida.

So I guess that I'll have to move on to Shaw soon. I spent 3 months down south and I don't want to miss my TV.

Joe

duster · 2012-04-19, 04:16 PM

Will we have to adjust our dish once nimiq 6 is operational?

MaxHeadroom · 2012-04-19, 04:59 PM

No, the satellite will move into the same orbital position.

duster · 2012-04-19, 05:44 PM

What about Nevada for example , I know the footptint for nimiq 6 will no longer reach Nevada but if you do some tweaking of the dish might you get some sort of signal?

Pinza · 2012-04-19, 06:41 PM

If the footprint does not reach you will get no signal, no matter how much 'tweaking' you do.

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2012-04-19, 08:35 AM	#41
pestyjoe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Eastern Quebec, close to Maine Posts: 41	Spot beam If Bell wants to do this, they could put a spot beam just for the people in Florida but I think that they are far away from doing that. They keep calling people to check the receivers in houses, so I doubt very much that they will spot beam Florida. So I guess that I'll have to move on to Shaw soon. I spent 3 months down south and I don't want to miss my TV. Joe

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2012-04-11, 10:13 AM	#35
AFF Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 673	They are not trying to prevent the South from getting signal. Bell is trying to provide better signal to Northern Canada. By doing this the Southern US loses signal. It's not about stopping Florida and the like from getting signal.

2012-04-11, 10:18 AM	#36
frenchhomer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 111	AFF is correct, it is about trying to get a stronger signal in Northern Canada, I have a friend that lives way up North and he needs a 1.2 meter dish to get the 91 sat at decent signal.

2012-04-11, 10:23 AM	#37
m3repair Join Date: May 2011 Location: Etobicoke, ON Posts: 378	I understand that underlying reason, but what has to be understood as it solves the issue of people getting the signal where they really shouldn't get it. Besides getting a stronger signal up north which by all means is a good thing and is the main focus. My post was nearly a reminder that this is part of the issue that will occur once this launch happens

2012-04-11, 05:15 PM	#39
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	No, no better PQ.

2012-04-12, 06:42 PM	#40
rogue17 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 556	The reception will be stronger and that will be a good thing.

2012-04-19, 04:16 PM	#42
duster Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 17	Will we have to adjust our dish once nimiq 6 is operational?

2012-04-19, 04:59 PM	#43
MaxHeadroom Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Russell, Ontario Posts: 301	No, the satellite will move into the same orbital position.

2012-04-19, 05:44 PM	#44
duster Rookie Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 17	What about Nevada for example , I know the footptint for nimiq 6 will no longer reach Nevada but if you do some tweaking of the dish might you get some sort of signal?

2012-04-19, 06:41 PM	#45
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	If the footprint does not reach you will get no signal, no matter how much 'tweaking' you do.