New owner of Denon AVR-1712. Some questions! - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

Phat_J · 2012-03-06, 02:34 PM

Hey everyone!
I recently got the Denon AVR-1712. I'm really happy with it overall. I paired with a set of Polk Audio speakers and the sound is great.
I have it connected to my TV with the 2nd video card output on my PC, as all the content it receives comes from my PC via HDMI and TOSLINK.

The unit is smart, in some regards, as it somehow knows when I'm listening to music through Winamp. The AVR display shows Pro Logic II Music, just as I set it. And it switches to Pro Logic II Cinema when I watch a video with stereo sound. I have the DTS and Dolby Digital passthrough enabled on my PC, and the AVR correctly displays and outputs this.

Now here's where the unit seems to have a mind of it's own. When I'm watching a movie, I find the center channel very low, so I went to the settings and boosted it 6db.
Then it's fine for a while. But the unit doesn't save my settings. It will be good for that movie, but the next day I find it has reverted to the +1.0db setting that it was at when I ran the Audyssey set up.
Or if I switch inputs to anything else, and come back to the PC input, I find the settings have reverted too. How can I get it to remember that I boosted the center channel?

Also, prior to owning the AVR, I had my PC connected directly to the TV. This never gave me any issues.
When I first set up the AVR, my PC seemed to forget it was connected to it, and I always had to go in and "enable" the second monitor for the video to be displayed.
I did some research and found that the HDMI always-on thing had to be enabled on the AVR. Did that and the problem was solved.

Now, for whatever reason, the PC is doing funky things with my monitor. I have to power on the monitor first, then the AVR, then the TV, or else it all goofs up.
If I don't power it up in this order, the PC forgets my monitor is attached and automatically switches the output to the AVR as primary. And I have to go run the dual monitor set up from scratch.

This never happened without the AVR. I have the same video card, drivers, PC, and OS. (NVIDIA GeForce 9500GT, Windows XP Pro SP3)

This second issue is minor, since I just have to remember to power things up in the order it likes. But I would still like to know why it happens.

Thanks!

57 · 2012-03-06, 03:09 PM

1. When I boost my center, it's remembered. I do this using the "channel level" button on my remote, scrolling to the desired channel and then increase or decrease whatever channel(s) I want via the OSD (or AVR display) and the "right/left" buttons.

2. HDMI sometimes requires things to be turned on in a certain order - especially with PCs. Sometimes if you wait a while, the handshake is "re-attempted" and then works, but sometimes not. Here's the HDMI FAQ where this is one of the items mentioned.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=71112

Here's a useful post - FAQs, Search Tips, Optimization.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=57741

Phat_J · 2012-03-07, 12:29 AM

I posted the same message on another forum, and learned I have to have the unit remember the settings by holding the Quick Select button for a few seconds. I never knew about this, so this should fix my issue.

Thanks for the link and info. I think I'll just live with my setup since it isn't a big deal.

2012-03-06, 02:34 PM	#1
Phat_J Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6	New owner of Denon AVR-1712. Some questions! Hey everyone! I recently got the Denon AVR-1712. I'm really happy with it overall. I paired with a set of Polk Audio speakers and the sound is great. I have it connected to my TV with the 2nd video card output on my PC, as all the content it receives comes from my PC via HDMI and TOSLINK. The unit is smart, in some regards, as it somehow knows when I'm listening to music through Winamp. The AVR display shows Pro Logic II Music, just as I set it. And it switches to Pro Logic II Cinema when I watch a video with stereo sound. I have the DTS and Dolby Digital passthrough enabled on my PC, and the AVR correctly displays and outputs this. Now here's where the unit seems to have a mind of it's own. When I'm watching a movie, I find the center channel very low, so I went to the settings and boosted it 6db. Then it's fine for a while. But the unit doesn't save my settings. It will be good for that movie, but the next day I find it has reverted to the +1.0db setting that it was at when I ran the Audyssey set up. Or if I switch inputs to anything else, and come back to the PC input, I find the settings have reverted too. How can I get it to remember that I boosted the center channel? Also, prior to owning the AVR, I had my PC connected directly to the TV. This never gave me any issues. When I first set up the AVR, my PC seemed to forget it was connected to it, and I always had to go in and "enable" the second monitor for the video to be displayed. I did some research and found that the HDMI always-on thing had to be enabled on the AVR. Did that and the problem was solved. Now, for whatever reason, the PC is doing funky things with my monitor. I have to power on the monitor first, then the AVR, then the TV, or else it all goofs up. If I don't power it up in this order, the PC forgets my monitor is attached and automatically switches the output to the AVR as primary. And I have to go run the dual monitor set up from scratch. This never happened without the AVR. I have the same video card, drivers, PC, and OS. (NVIDIA GeForce 9500GT, Windows XP Pro SP3) This second issue is minor, since I just have to remember to power things up in the order it likes. But I would still like to know why it happens. Thanks!

2012-03-06, 03:09 PM	#2
57 Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Rogers, 8300HD, eHDD, Panasonic TCP65S1, Denon AVR4310Ci; 8300HD, eHDD & Sony KDL40W3000 Posts: 50,347	1. When I boost my center, it's remembered. I do this using the "channel level" button on my remote, scrolling to the desired channel and then increase or decrease whatever channel(s) I want via the OSD (or AVR display) and the "right/left" buttons. 2. HDMI sometimes requires things to be turned on in a certain order - especially with PCs. Sometimes if you wait a while, the handshake is "re-attempted" and then works, but sometimes not. Here's the HDMI FAQ where this is one of the items mentioned. http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=71112 Here's a useful post - FAQs, Search Tips, Optimization. http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=57741 __________________ 57's Home Theatre (Latest equipment & photos) 57's Optimization Services (Home Theatre Optimization)

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2012-03-07, 12:29 AM	#3
Phat_J Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6	I posted the same message on another forum, and learned I have to have the unit remember the settings by holding the Quick Select button for a few seconds. I never knew about this, so this should fix my issue. Thanks for the link and info. I think I'll just live with my setup since it isn't a big deal.