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majortom · 2012-02-13, 07:10 PM

SES2 87W
11805 H 11150
DVB-S2 8PSK

Ya may wanna check your reception quality as compared to yesterday or earlier.
Seems OK here, ~ 80% qual on the Openbox S9, and 91% on the Prof 7500 USB tuner.

edit: The SR was 12475 yesterday

cyberham · 2012-02-13, 07:39 PM

All 3 channels are broken video and audio. Signal intensity 90% but quality 10% (nothing) to 25%. This is with dish peaked the best I can by motor. But at least I'm receiving them; I haven't seen them since late autumn last year.

majortom · 2012-02-13, 08:14 PM

gotta be sumthin related to your LNBF(s), Your dish size (1m) should be sufficient I would think.
Is that on the Ariza dish, or the Multistar? From what I have heard that Ariza should be a decent performer.

How well do ya do on other reported DVB-S2 8PSK Feeds?

cyberham · 2012-02-13, 11:28 PM

I am finding daily variations in conditions are having a big effect on reception. For example, tonight Pentagon was very strong. Even the Pentagon HD station was perfect reception tonight. Other nights it is invisible. Huntington Beach was strong tonight. Again, other nights it is invisible. Until I can compare with somebody local, I'm not sure I have any problem. We are usually in a different part of the footprint of signals compared with Toronto. I have emailed with a local but he has a 1.2m so not really comparable.

I am using the D*g*w*v*e dish (why won't this forum allow the word D*g*w*v*e??). It is similar to the Ariza. There aren't too many DVB-S2 8PSK on 15W through 121W excluding 103W which I can't receive since I can't do its skew on my motor. In fact, I don't think there are any other regular DVB-S2 other than LPB. The S9 doesn't indicate if a signal is DVB-S2 or DVB so I never know what a feed is using.

DrSat · 2012-02-14, 06:17 PM

Thanks for reporting this. I updated the SR rate for LPBS on our channels database at http://channels.drsat.ca and also took the opportunity to add a bunch of C and KU Band channels which were missing as well.

Kraven · 2012-02-15, 08:16 AM

Thanks Dr Sat. I've said it before, but you're channel list is, imo, one of the most useful FTA tools available on the 'net. Must have used it minimum 100 times so far (including last night..... FX HD West.. awesome!)

Cheers, K

cyberham · 2012-02-15, 08:37 AM

Yes, database is very useful. I have used it often. It would be cool if users could conveniently submit noticed errors via a linked template. The ku portion is mostly accurate now (even Telstar 12 is complete!), but I see a couple of things that need updating.

majortom · 2012-02-16, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberham

I am finding daily variations in conditions are having a big effect on reception.

I was seeing LPB slowly fade out last nite too. Would gradually fade out, and gradually come back, repeat. wierd.

cyberham · 2012-02-17, 08:04 AM

I think the 200 feet of RG-6 running to my distant dish is probably a big factor for trouble receiving LPB. If I put a separate fixed dish on back balcony with just 50 feet of cable, then I'll reduce cable loss by 15dB. And I could probably swing it over to play with the NBC feeds on 103W too.

Cham · 2012-02-17, 08:24 AM

Yes 200' of RG-6 is getting a bit lossy... you could try some RG-11 for that sort of distance but moving things closer works even better.
-C.

cyberham · 2012-02-17, 08:55 AM

I can't move the motorized dish any closer or I lose view of the arc due to trees. But I can probably peek between trees with a much closer fixed dish that I can easily manually orient to get LPB / PBS / NBC. RG-11 isn't as easy to find locally.

Kraven · 2012-02-17, 09:06 AM

Ever consider cutting down the trees?

Cheers, K

wilspin · 2012-02-17, 09:13 AM

I am getting the same issues with shorter RG 6 and no trees. 90 and 10-25%

wilspin · 2012-02-17, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majortom

SES2 87W
11805 H 11150
DVB-S2 8PSK

Ya may wanna check your reception quality as compared to yesterday or earlier.
Seems OK here, ~ 80% qual on the Openbox S9, and 91% on the Prof 7500 USB tuner.

edit: The SR was 12475 yesterday

How do you find this out? I can not blind scan this signal. Only manual input gets them. Thier website does not reflect this.

cyberham · 2012-02-17, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilspin

...Their website does not reflect this.

http://beta.lpb.org/index.php/site/satellite/
If you have a strong enough signal, it should blind scan in.

2012-02-13, 07:10 PM	#1
majortom Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,613	Louisiana PBS Symbol rate change SES2 87W 11805 H 11150 DVB-S2 8PSK Ya may wanna check your reception quality as compared to yesterday or earlier. Seems OK here, ~ 80% qual on the Openbox S9, and 91% on the Prof 7500 USB tuner. edit: The SR was 12475 yesterday __________________ uhf/vhf combo rotor chimney mount homebrew vhf hi hpf ap-8700 preamp 4way split lg lcd dtt901 pctuner mythtv

2012-02-13, 07:39 PM	#2
cyberham Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 468	All 3 channels are broken video and audio. Signal intensity 90% but quality 10% (nothing) to 25%. This is with dish peaked the best I can by motor. But at least I'm receiving them; I haven't seen them since late autumn last year. __________________ GEOSATpro microHD, 40"x44" Ku dish w/Multistar .3dB universal LNB, SG-2100 H-H motor, 8' mini-tower

2012-02-13, 08:14 PM	#3
majortom Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,613	gotta be sumthin related to your LNBF(s), Your dish size (1m) should be sufficient I would think. Is that on the Ariza dish, or the Multistar? From what I have heard that Ariza should be a decent performer. How well do ya do on other reported DVB-S2 8PSK Feeds? __________________ uhf/vhf combo rotor chimney mount homebrew vhf hi hpf ap-8700 preamp 4way split lg lcd dtt901 pctuner mythtv

2012-02-13, 11:28 PM	#4
cyberham Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 468	I am finding daily variations in conditions are having a big effect on reception. For example, tonight Pentagon was very strong. Even the Pentagon HD station was perfect reception tonight. Other nights it is invisible. Huntington Beach was strong tonight. Again, other nights it is invisible. Until I can compare with somebody local, I'm not sure I have any problem. We are usually in a different part of the footprint of signals compared with Toronto. I have emailed with a local but he has a 1.2m so not really comparable. I am using the Dgwve dish (why won't this forum allow the word Dgwve??). It is similar to the Ariza. There aren't too many DVB-S2 8PSK on 15W through 121W excluding 103W which I can't receive since I can't do its skew on my motor. In fact, I don't think there are any other regular DVB-S2 other than LPB. The S9 doesn't indicate if a signal is DVB-S2 or DVB so I never know what a feed is using. __________________ GEOSATpro microHD, 40"x44" Ku dish w/Multistar .3dB universal LNB, SG-2100 H-H motor, 8' mini-tower

2012-02-14, 06:17 PM	#5
DrSat Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Oakville, ON Posts: 755	Thanks for reporting this. I updated the SR rate for LPBS on our channels database at http://channels.drsat.ca and also took the opportunity to add a bunch of C and KU Band channels which were missing as well. __________________ Proud sponsor of the FTA satellite forum Fier commanditaire du forum FTA

2012-02-15, 08:16 AM	#6
Kraven Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Shore, QC Posts: 530	Thanks Dr Sat. I've said it before, but you're channel list is, imo, one of the most useful FTA tools available on the 'net. Must have used it minimum 100 times so far (including last night..... FX HD West.. awesome!) Cheers, K

2012-02-15, 08:37 AM	#7
cyberham Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 468	Yes, database is very useful. I have used it often. It would be cool if users could conveniently submit noticed errors via a linked template. The ku portion is mostly accurate now (even Telstar 12 is complete!), but I see a couple of things that need updating. __________________ GEOSATpro microHD, 40"x44" Ku dish w/Multistar .3dB universal LNB, SG-2100 H-H motor, 8' mini-tower

2012-02-17, 08:04 AM	#9
cyberham Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 468	I think the 200 feet of RG-6 running to my distant dish is probably a big factor for trouble receiving LPB. If I put a separate fixed dish on back balcony with just 50 feet of cable, then I'll reduce cable loss by 15dB. And I could probably swing it over to play with the NBC feeds on 103W too. __________________ GEOSATpro microHD, 40"x44" Ku dish w/Multistar .3dB universal LNB, SG-2100 H-H motor, 8' mini-tower

2012-02-17, 08:24 AM	#10
Cham Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Southern Manitoba Posts: 194	Yes 200' of RG-6 is getting a bit lossy... you could try some RG-11 for that sort of distance but moving things closer works even better. -C. __________________ Winegard HD7697P, FTA C-band, & various home made projects...

2012-02-17, 08:55 AM	#11
cyberham Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 468	I can't move the motorized dish any closer or I lose view of the arc due to trees. But I can probably peek between trees with a much closer fixed dish that I can easily manually orient to get LPB / PBS / NBC. RG-11 isn't as easy to find locally. __________________ GEOSATpro microHD, 40"x44" Ku dish w/Multistar .3dB universal LNB, SG-2100 H-H motor, 8' mini-tower

2012-02-17, 09:06 AM	#12
Kraven Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Shore, QC Posts: 530	Ever consider cutting down the trees? Cheers, K

2012-02-17, 09:13 AM	#13
wilspin Corporate Supporter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rice Lake near Bewdley Posts: 637	I am getting the same issues with shorter RG 6 and no trees. 90 and 10-25% __________________ 60' Delhi tower,91XG,Y13-10,DB8,Tin Lee Traps,CM9521A,CM7777,CM7000,Winegard RC-1010 & HDA200,Samsung 32 LCD,2 WTV950Q Twinntech supports Digital Home

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