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Jason316 · 2012-02-12, 07:33 PM

Why doesn't Shaw have a "coming soon" page?

Telus does:

Coming soon to Optik TV
Coming soon, negotiations in progress:
SPACEHD
Discovery Channel HD

We're working on bringing you the channels you've been asking for.

Just curious. it would be good to know that Shaw is trying to get new channels.

DSgamby · 2012-02-12, 07:37 PM

They kinda do.

http://shaw.ca/Television/News-And-Free-Previews/
http://www.shaw.ca/Bulletins/

Jason316 · 2012-02-12, 07:40 PM

^^those links say nothing about "negotiations in progress" with stations shaw doesn't carry

DSgamby · 2012-02-12, 07:46 PM

But what if negotiations don't follow through and Shaw can't get the channel?

Jason316 · 2012-02-12, 09:10 PM

^^^atleast we know they tried to get it

sometimes things don't work out...thats life

remember when Shaw blamed the NHL for the blackouts on sportsnet channels...i loved when the NHL fired back and said Shaw is the only Canadian company refusing to carry Center Ice

DSgamby · 2012-02-12, 09:13 PM

Sure, Shaw could have had CI sooner but it was the NHL blackouts why Sportnets games are not shown nationally not Shaw. All BDUs blacked out, out of Region Sportsnet NHL games.

Ppaatt · 2012-02-13, 01:24 AM

Shaw's taken the approach that they don't announce channels until they're actually airing, or at least a sure thing. I think, as DSgamby has said, they don't want to raise expectations that might not be met. Whatever their reason, it is a deliberate strategy on their part.

Jason316 · 2012-02-13, 01:36 AM

All BDUs blacked out, out of Region Sportsnet NHL games.

Ofcourse they did however unlike Shaw they didn't blame the NHL for that.

DSgamby · 2012-02-13, 07:07 AM

Who did they blame for blacking out of Region Sportsnet NHL games then?

57 · 2012-02-13, 10:07 AM

It's not a matter of customer expectations. Firstly, it's a matter of the competition - they don't wish them to know exactly what they're doing. Secondly, it's a matter of the supplier negotiations - if the supplier knows that you "want" a particular channel or group of channels then the negotiations with the supplier have been compromised putting you, as a provider, in a weaker bargaining position.

With Bell and Discovery Channel (and Space), the latter doesn't apply directly since you're negotiating with yourself to some extent - although I have seen "silos" in a company negotiate harder between themselves than with outsiders (if Measures of Performance are poorly enacted).

ertyu · 2012-02-13, 03:00 PM

Forgot about coming soon, how about now showing?

Shaw doesn't seem to be too good about communicating previews, specials and offers and such. They have several avenues to reach me: mail, email, website, digital terminal message, but I rarely seem to get information about these items that are of interest to me.

DSgamby · 2012-02-13, 04:17 PM

They do show the new stuff. See post #2

ertyu · 2012-02-13, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSgamby

They do show the new stuff. See post #2

They show some new stuff, not all, it's hit and miss and often lacking in detail. That is also a single passive method.

Jason316 · 2012-02-14, 04:45 AM

again the point is Telus shows who they are negotiating with why can't Shaw do they same to its loyal customers?

DSgamby · 2012-02-14, 07:13 AM

57 already posted the reason. You can disagree with the reasoning but that is how it is.

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2012-02-12, 07:37 PM	#2
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	They kinda do. http://shaw.ca/Television/News-And-Free-Previews/ http://www.shaw.ca/Bulletins/

2012-02-12, 07:40 PM	#3
Jason316 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 273	^^those links say nothing about "negotiations in progress" with stations shaw doesn't carry

2012-02-12, 07:46 PM	#4
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	But what if negotiations don't follow through and Shaw can't get the channel?

2012-02-12, 09:10 PM	#5
Jason316 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 273	^^^atleast we know they tried to get it sometimes things don't work out...thats life remember when Shaw blamed the NHL for the blackouts on sportsnet channels...i loved when the NHL fired back and said Shaw is the only Canadian company refusing to carry Center Ice

2012-02-12, 09:13 PM	#6
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	Sure, Shaw could have had CI sooner but it was the NHL blackouts why Sportnets games are not shown nationally not Shaw. All BDUs blacked out, out of Region Sportsnet NHL games.

2012-02-13, 01:24 AM	#7
Ppaatt Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 164	Shaw's taken the approach that they don't announce channels until they're actually airing, or at least a sure thing. I think, as DSgamby has said, they don't want to raise expectations that might not be met. Whatever their reason, it is a deliberate strategy on their part.

2012-02-13, 01:36 AM	#8
Jason316 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 273	All BDUs blacked out, out of Region Sportsnet NHL games. Ofcourse they did however unlike Shaw they didn't blame the NHL for that.

2012-02-13, 07:07 AM	#9
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	Who did they blame for blacking out of Region Sportsnet NHL games then?

2012-02-13, 03:00 PM	#11
ertyu Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 127	Forgot about coming soon, how about now showing? Shaw doesn't seem to be too good about communicating previews, specials and offers and such. They have several avenues to reach me: mail, email, website, digital terminal message, but I rarely seem to get information about these items that are of interest to me.

2012-02-13, 04:17 PM	#12
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	They do show the new stuff. See post #2

2012-02-14, 04:45 AM	#14
Jason316 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 273	again the point is Telus shows who they are negotiating with why can't Shaw do they same to its loyal customers?

2012-02-14, 07:13 AM	#15
DSgamby Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Posts: 3,896	57 already posted the reason. You can disagree with the reasoning but that is how it is.