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Pinza · 2012-01-26, 04:58 PM

As I said a while ago Bell are going to release a new HD Receiver, the 6400.

ORS = Outright Sale
RCP = Rental Choice Plan

Blackloz · 2012-01-26, 06:03 PM

Good news. Its about time Bell went HD receivers only. The 4100 should have been gone 2 years ago. I noticed it said under new features that the 6400 has an updated guide. I wonder how exactly is it updated? As all MPEG4 models currently have the same guide anyway?

Pinza · 2012-01-26, 06:12 PM

When I get my hands on one I will try to get some screen shots of the Guide.

peano · 2012-01-26, 06:31 PM

Wow! This is a completely new model from Echostar. Dish Network has nothing like it.

I guess Bell will now support HDMI officially since this box does not have component.

Installer · 2012-01-26, 07:27 PM

Pinza do you forsee any problems with the lack of component input from an instalation point of veiw.

Costa · 2012-01-26, 07:31 PM

Old (dvi only equipped TV's) and new equipement (ie. Projection monitors) will not allow audio to be delivered through HDMI of a device. What does a customer do in this case? FL and FR analog for surround sound?

Most of the time, HDMI Splitters will not resolve these issues either. I've seen brand new projectors disable the audio off HDMI because it cannot use it. The only solution was optical.

Anyway, HDMI still has major handshaking issues, I don't think its a right time to make HDMI the only option for HD Video and surround sound.

Blackloz · 2012-01-26, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Old (dvi only equipped TV's) and new equipement (ie. Projection monitors) will not allow audio to be delivered through HDMI of a device. What does a customer do in this case? FL and FR analog for surround sound?

Pick up extra 6131's while you can before all the existing stock is sold off. Even if they are not activated right away. I made this mistake with the 9242 and only bought 1 when I should have got a few extra.

peano · 2012-01-26, 08:24 PM

Bell technical support:

"Sorry Mr. Customer that HDMI is not working. Please hook up your 60" plasma with the yellow, red and white connectors. Thank you for calling Bell. Is there anything else I can help with?"

dm_4u · 2012-01-27, 08:32 AM

Yikes...now that is one very scary thought.

North_of_Calgary · 2012-01-27, 12:41 PM

And yet another receiver with no UHF remote. Sad to see that trend....

Corizzle · 2012-01-27, 06:48 PM

Is it just me, or is this essentially a downgrade with the possible exception of whatever the "improved channel guide" is?

JoeLouie · 2012-01-27, 07:35 PM

If you really need the component or optical outputs I guess you could consider it a downgrade, but other than that it should do everything else the 6131 does. I'm curious to hear what they have in mind for the 2nd USB port for "future functionality".

More and more newer TVs are coming out without component inputs. A lot of them only have a coax input and 3 or 4 HDMI inputs, plus a dongle to use composite or component. But in my experience the dongles are garbage and I usually recommend picking up an HDMI cable instead.

Pinza · 2012-01-27, 07:53 PM

"Future Functionality", hmmm, sounds like the expansion port on the rear of the 5100, 5800, 5900 models, that was never used.

Pinza · 2012-01-28, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peano

I guess Bell will now support HDMI officially since this box does not have component.

They have it covered Peano......

scrooloose · 2012-01-28, 12:48 PM

I assume this receiver will be sold at the same price as the 4100, i.e. $99? It seems easier to me just to drop the price of the 6131 ( I would prefer Bell stick with identical hardware to what Dish sells, so bugs get caught and fixed quicker).

-Mike

2012-01-26, 04:58 PM	#1
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	Bell 6400 HD Receiver. As I said a while ago Bell are going to release a new HD Receiver, the 6400. ORS = Outright Sale RCP = Rental Choice Plan

2012-01-26, 07:27 PM	#5
Installer Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 292	Pinza do you forsee any problems with the lack of component input from an instalation point of veiw. __________________ "The quality of your question will directly effect the quality of your answer"

2012-01-26, 07:31 PM	#6
Costa Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 520	Old (dvi only equipped TV's) and new equipement (ie. Projection monitors) will not allow audio to be delivered through HDMI of a device. What does a customer do in this case? FL and FR analog for surround sound? Most of the time, HDMI Splitters will not resolve these issues either. I've seen brand new projectors disable the audio off HDMI because it cannot use it. The only solution was optical. Anyway, HDMI still has major handshaking issues, I don't think its a right time to make HDMI the only option for HD Video and surround sound. __________________ Everything

2012-01-28, 12:48 PM	#15
scrooloose Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grimsby, Ont. Posts: 3,117	I assume this receiver will be sold at the same price as the 4100, i.e. $99? It seems easier to me just to drop the price of the 6131 ( I would prefer Bell stick with identical hardware to what Dish sells, so bugs get caught and fixed quicker). -Mike __________________ Pioneer PRO-110FD \| Pioneer VSX-92TXH \| BELL 9242 \| Panasonic DMP-BD35 \| XBOX 360 \|WD TV Live Hub

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2012-01-26, 06:03 PM	#2
Blackloz Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Regina,SK & Plentywood MT Posts: 855	Good news. Its about time Bell went HD receivers only. The 4100 should have been gone 2 years ago. I noticed it said under new features that the 6400 has an updated guide. I wonder how exactly is it updated? As all MPEG4 models currently have the same guide anyway?

2012-01-26, 06:12 PM	#3
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	When I get my hands on one I will try to get some screen shots of the Guide.

2012-01-26, 06:31 PM	#4
peano Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,586	Wow! This is a completely new model from Echostar. Dish Network has nothing like it. I guess Bell will now support HDMI officially since this box does not have component.

2012-01-26, 08:24 PM	#8
peano Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,586	Bell technical support: "Sorry Mr. Customer that HDMI is not working. Please hook up your 60" plasma with the yellow, red and white connectors. Thank you for calling Bell. Is there anything else I can help with?"

2012-01-27, 08:32 AM	#9
dm_4u Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Winnipeg - Bell-HD Posts: 2,090	Yikes...now that is one very scary thought.

2012-01-27, 12:41 PM	#10
North_of_Calgary Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Calgary Area Posts: 2,074	And yet another receiver with no UHF remote. Sad to see that trend....

2012-01-27, 06:48 PM	#11
Corizzle Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 77	Is it just me, or is this essentially a downgrade with the possible exception of whatever the "improved channel guide" is?

2012-01-27, 07:35 PM	#12
JoeLouie Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 890	If you really need the component or optical outputs I guess you could consider it a downgrade, but other than that it should do everything else the 6131 does. I'm curious to hear what they have in mind for the 2nd USB port for "future functionality". More and more newer TVs are coming out without component inputs. A lot of them only have a coax input and 3 or 4 HDMI inputs, plus a dongle to use composite or component. But in my experience the dongles are garbage and I usually recommend picking up an HDMI cable instead.

2012-01-27, 07:53 PM	#13
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	"Future Functionality", hmmm, sounds like the expansion port on the rear of the 5100, 5800, 5900 models, that was never used.