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rogue17 · 2012-04-11, 12:28 PM

I thought the 6131 was the 211k. And the 6141 was the 211.

peano · 2012-04-11, 01:03 PM

6141 = 211k

6131 = castrated 211k

6400 = some Bell exec's crazy idea to make a Bell exclusive receiver

IanJames · 2012-04-11, 11:27 PM

I think you're wrong. Bell needs whole-home DVR to stay competitive. To tought their PVR as the "best" at this stage is a joke.

JoeLouie · 2012-04-12, 06:52 AM

I agree that they need whole-home PVR to stay competitive, but I still think that it will be a few years at least before we see it.

Pinza · 2012-04-12, 07:45 PM

All new investment will be towards FIBE TV, so don't expect too much and you will not be disappointed.

IanJames · 2012-04-12, 08:45 PM

Do you work with Bell? As I understand it FIBE = telus Optik. If what you say is true and you have corporate knowledge of this it sure seems like the big telecoms are in a conspiracy to keep canadian consumers over paying for throttled service. Why would I be surprised? They are the same folks who keep our cell phone bills the highest in the world. Very suspicious.

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scrooloose · 2012-04-12, 10:02 PM

Bell has a new satellite going up shortly and they're in the process of upgrading all non MPEG4 HD receivers FREE to affected customers, both very expensive ventures. To say they're not investing anything in satellite simply isn't true. I hope they offer a new PVR eventually but I don't think it will be until after this other business is finished.

-Mike

IanJames · 2012-04-12, 10:34 PM

Bell won't get ANY sympathy for "expensive" ventures. They will fall FAR behind, not providing whole-home PVR. too bad.

Pinza · 2012-04-13, 03:45 AM

The new Nimiq 6 bird was ordered years ago, probably before FIBE TV even existed, they don't just pop down to the Sat Store and get one off the shelf.

Once ordered, they have to go through with it. Ask yourself, what is Nimiq 5 doing right now.? Oh it is being used by Dishnetwork, it is NOT being used for Canadian Customers at all.

I did say NEW investment, I consider the MPEG4 swap an old one, as it started some time ago, last October I believe.

It is my opinion, that you will see little in infrastructure spending by Bell TV, on Stacked System Installations in Apartments, as they will try to direct Customers to FIBE TV.

primehifi · 2012-04-13, 09:39 AM

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It is my opinion, that you will see little in infrastructure spending by Bell TV, on Stacked System Installations in Apartments, as they will try to direct Customers to FIBE TV.

I would tend to agree with this.

rogue17 · 2012-04-13, 11:02 AM

I tend to agree with this too. Bell has fallen behind here in Quebec to Videotron. They have introduced the a la carte option and the next step would be to attack Videotron with their Fibe TV.

Personally I prefer Sat over Fibe and hope they do invest in it.

Having said that, Fibe is only available in Ontario and Quebec. I am close to downtown Montreal and Fibe is still not available in my area. If Bell invests only on Fibe as it is rolling it out than they will lose potential customers. Customers who will not have any other option than to go with Videotron if the Satellite option is not competitive and Fibe yet not available in their area.

Blackloz · 2012-04-13, 02:15 PM

exactly Sat was here long before Fibe was even thought of, so Bell should stay on the Sat end of things and consider Fibe a "secondary" venture with the main focus being Sat. Back to the Hopper/Joey, I had a chance to play around with one last weekend back home. It was cool. I would very much like Bell to look into this.

IanJames · 2012-04-13, 08:43 PM

and why all of our chatter? Are we all just speculating? I was hoping to hear from a Bell insider.

And YES I am suggesting they nip down to the EchoStar store and acquire the Hopper-Joey systems off their pre-existing shelf.

Pinza · 2012-04-14, 07:47 AM

Bell had the Dish versions of the 3200 & 5200 installed at Wynford Drive about 6 or 7 months before we were told they were going to release it in the Bell System. Then it took another 6 or 7 months for it to be confirmed and then another 6 or 7 for it to appear.

So, total lead time, 18 to 21 months.

I am 100% confident, there is NO Hopper or Joey, in Wynford Drive.

You do the math......

IanJames · 2012-04-14, 02:44 PM

OK, so THAT sounds like a semi-informed opinion. Does the Hopper use a different dish style? Would it be visible if Bell was testing?

2012-04-12, 10:02 PM	#22
scrooloose Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grimsby, Ont. Posts: 3,117	Bell has a new satellite going up shortly and they're in the process of upgrading all non MPEG4 HD receivers FREE to affected customers, both very expensive ventures. To say they're not investing anything in satellite simply isn't true. I hope they offer a new PVR eventually but I don't think it will be until after this other business is finished. -Mike __________________ Pioneer PRO-110FD \| Pioneer VSX-92TXH \| BELL 9242 \| Panasonic DMP-BD35 \| XBOX 360 \|WD TV Live Hub

2012-04-13, 08:43 PM	#28
IanJames Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 68	and why all of our chatter? Are we all just speculating? I was hoping to hear from a Bell insider. And YES I am suggesting they nip down to the EchoStar store and acquire the Hopper-Joey systems off their pre-existing shelf. Last edited by 57; 2012-04-13 at 11:25 PM. Reason: OT paragraph removed

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2012-04-11, 12:28 PM	#16
rogue17 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 556	I thought the 6131 was the 211k. And the 6141 was the 211.

2012-04-11, 01:03 PM	#17
peano Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,586	6141 = 211k 6131 = castrated 211k 6400 = some Bell exec's crazy idea to make a Bell exclusive receiver

2012-04-11, 11:27 PM	#18
IanJames Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 68	I think you're wrong. Bell needs whole-home DVR to stay competitive. To tought their PVR as the "best" at this stage is a joke.

2012-04-12, 06:52 AM	#19
JoeLouie Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 890	I agree that they need whole-home PVR to stay competitive, but I still think that it will be a few years at least before we see it.

2012-04-12, 07:45 PM	#20
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	All new investment will be towards FIBE TV, so don't expect too much and you will not be disappointed.

2012-04-12, 08:45 PM	#21
IanJames Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 68	Do you work with Bell? As I understand it FIBE = telus Optik. If what you say is true and you have corporate knowledge of this it sure seems like the big telecoms are in a conspiracy to keep canadian consumers over paying for throttled service. Why would I be surprised? They are the same folks who keep our cell phone bills the highest in the world. Very suspicious. Wouldn't you love a new player to pop up? Richard Branson? Are you listening?

2012-04-12, 10:34 PM	#23
IanJames Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 68	Bell won't get ANY sympathy for "expensive" ventures. They will fall FAR behind, not providing whole-home PVR. too bad.

2012-04-13, 03:45 AM	#24
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	The new Nimiq 6 bird was ordered years ago, probably before FIBE TV even existed, they don't just pop down to the Sat Store and get one off the shelf. Once ordered, they have to go through with it. Ask yourself, what is Nimiq 5 doing right now.? Oh it is being used by Dishnetwork, it is NOT being used for Canadian Customers at all. I did say NEW investment, I consider the MPEG4 swap an old one, as it started some time ago, last October I believe. It is my opinion, that you will see little in infrastructure spending by Bell TV, on Stacked System Installations in Apartments, as they will try to direct Customers to FIBE TV.

2012-04-13, 11:02 AM	#26
rogue17 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 556	I tend to agree with this too. Bell has fallen behind here in Quebec to Videotron. They have introduced the a la carte option and the next step would be to attack Videotron with their Fibe TV. Personally I prefer Sat over Fibe and hope they do invest in it. Having said that, Fibe is only available in Ontario and Quebec. I am close to downtown Montreal and Fibe is still not available in my area. If Bell invests only on Fibe as it is rolling it out than they will lose potential customers. Customers who will not have any other option than to go with Videotron if the Satellite option is not competitive and Fibe yet not available in their area.

2012-04-13, 02:15 PM	#27
Blackloz Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Regina,SK & Plentywood MT Posts: 855	exactly Sat was here long before Fibe was even thought of, so Bell should stay on the Sat end of things and consider Fibe a "secondary" venture with the main focus being Sat. Back to the Hopper/Joey, I had a chance to play around with one last weekend back home. It was cool. I would very much like Bell to look into this.

2012-04-14, 07:47 AM	#29
Pinza Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: GTA Posts: 8,583	Bell had the Dish versions of the 3200 & 5200 installed at Wynford Drive about 6 or 7 months before we were told they were going to release it in the Bell System. Then it took another 6 or 7 months for it to be confirmed and then another 6 or 7 for it to appear. So, total lead time, 18 to 21 months. I am 100% confident, there is NO Hopper or Joey, in Wynford Drive. You do the math......

2012-04-14, 02:44 PM	#30
IanJames Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 68	OK, so THAT sounds like a semi-informed opinion. Does the Hopper use a different dish style? Would it be visible if Bell was testing?