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Join Date: Jan 2004
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So far it looks like prices in B.C. are not going to increase.
The minute they do I'll be switching back to Shaw. |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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I'm on Teksavvy cable, and the e-mail notice I received does not specify that the bandwith meter is turned off only for DSL customers, although I see this is stated on Teksavvy's new pricing page. At this point, my assumption is that this should also apply for cable.
I also see that the Bandwith Usage form still doesn't work for cable accounts. Considering the alternatives, I'm not too unhappy about the price increases, so long as they don't go up any further. However, the Teksavvy letter seems to imply that these may be temporary/interim prices while they continue to investigate and explore ways to mitigate costs.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Here is the letter I received : Quote:
I'm fine with the price increase assuming Teksavvy can offer a more consistent experience. Up until now, I have been quite tolerant of significant speed DECREASES during peak times (7pm - 10pm) resulting in max speeds of less than half of what I am paying for. With this increase in price, I will expect more consistent download speeds on the cable side and will be complaining come February if it continues to be a problem. On a side note, I have a Speedstream 516 modem lying around that I previously used for their 5Meg DSL service. Can this modem be used for the 16Meg / 25Meg DSL service as well or is a different modem required? |
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AvengingAngel, I don't think TS can get it right. On your email its Cable and DSL. On their website its DSL only. My advice is for cable customers to call them and confirm if its important to you.
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The new pricing structure is <see link in post #1> for both DSL and Cable. It includes some new unlimited plans. I'm guessing, but this is probably the fallout from the recent CRTC wholesale pricing decision, discussed here. It's also only the second price increase in 8 years, both of which were announced after a CRTC decision that allowed an increase in wholesale rates. Can't complain too much about that.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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if there will be a price increase for the login only accounts? I have an acount with them that I use in case my primary connection fails.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Toronto, Wind Mobile, Rogers Cable, Teksavvy Extreme Cable
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I prefer to think of it as the cost associated with the bump from 200 to 300 GB which happened (for free) in the summer.
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Teksavvy sure likes to play the victim card. Must be nice for them to blame all their troubles on the companies that make their service possible. When I read about 300GB and unlimited caps, I wonder who is (or was) subsidizing that? Seems like these price increases are reasonable and targeted at those that should be paying more.
-Mike
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Barrie, ON
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Bandwidth is not a non-renewable resource. There is an unlimited amount of it and when you compare profits made to capital spent to provide that bandwidth it's enough to make the greediest investment banker drool.
Rogers and Bell want to convince people it's like oil. Has to be carefully managed, even restricted to keep the prices high so it's not wasted. Maybe that's the brave new CDN world. Where we ask "What's a TB of data selling for in the markets today"? Up $3 a TB, awesome!! |
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Internet Bandwidth is infinitely upgradable but at a cost. Perhaps if society didn't measure the success of a company on the size of its profit, they would more willing to put that profit back into improving the service - but it doesn't work that way. I'm sure Teksavvy wants to improve its profit just like the rest of them. The playing field is being leveled and that's what has Teksavvy worried.
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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TekSavvy already explained why they bumped the cap from 200 GB to 300 GB. It's because the cost of obtaining network access from their corporate Internet providers went DOWN instead of up! They realized they could increase the limits without affecting their bottom line.
Billing by the byte is outright fraud. The only real cost factor here is speed, not volume. Networking equipment really doesn't care how much data flows through them. You can saturate a network connection to its maximum throughput, and all that will happen to the equipment is that it will simply not process the information any faster. It won't burst like a water pipe because networks have no concept of pressure. The only real cost here is building the necessary infrastructure to provide faster speeds for all. I've already created a video about the UBB deception many months ago, and the reasons why incumbents may be pushing so hard for a UBB based business model. It has nothing to do with network capacity or operating costs, and may have everything to do with protecting the antiquated business models of the incumbents. And while the current pricing plan imposed by the CRTC might not be the best that we can get, at least it still offers an "unlimited" window where even people with capped services can benefit from it. Should be interesting to see the TorIX bandwidth measurements in a couple of months. |
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Toronto
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I am surprised at how people are so forgiving of Teksavvy's price increase. If a big company did this, we'd be screaming.
In examining it, Teksavvy admits their fixed costs have gone down but claim the "variable" costs have skyrocketed. So why not create a 100GB or 200GB cap cable package and charge less or the same price? Why do they have to raise prices? If the variable costs are the big problem as they say then why not create more modest 60 and 100GB packages which take advantage of lower fixed costs and downplay the variable costs. IF they did this then they could actually offer packages for less than the current price without big price increases. Could the change in the existing pricing paradigm simply be a way to put through a sizable price increase to boost profits and shift the blame to Rogers/CRTC etc?
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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This is not the first time TekSavvy had to adjust prices to take into account decisions made by the CRTC or the incumbents. And every time they did, they always did their best to adjust everything so that it will impact their customers as little as possible.
And unlike the incumbents, TekSavvy doesn't increase their prices each and every year regardless if it's necessary or not. And as I've already said, my switching from unlimited to the 300 GB cap service will actually SAVE me $5 per month, with little or no changes required in my Internet surfing behaviour. |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Toronto, Wind Mobile, Rogers Cable, Teksavvy Extreme Cable
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Well there are a few reasons. For one, some of their prices went down while some went up. If this was all about profit, why drop the 12/16/25 DSL costs? Though my plan is going up, that makes me feel like it's less of a straight price increase and more of a restructuring.
Teksavvy also is far more open about why they make changes, although we have no way to actually fact check them. The off-peak downloading is also a nice new benefit, which will allow some users to actually save money by switching to a 300GB plan. I wonder if Teksavvy might not want to implement low-cap plans beyond the super-basic entry cable plan, because they might be worried that the optics might weaken their case against UBB. If many of their customers are comfortable on low-caps, it might be harder to rail against them. |
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